Not sure why you are questioning me about this.

All i inquired about was the government sending us automated speeding
tickets. That's it. No comment on CISPA or any of this other stuff. Just
speeding tickets.

I guess I should know better than to even hint that the government might
not be up to the worst possible kinds of nefarious acts...lest I be deemed
"naive".

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:59 AM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> GMoney, have you ever heard of Total Information Awareness, or Echelon?
>
> Have you looked into any of the more recent laws I have gone on and on
> about?
>
> Here's a small list to spend some time with should you feel like seeing
> what seems to be a very real pattern to soldify the hold of the police
> state, and do away with our constituional rights:
>
> National Defense Authorization Act for 2012
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012
>
> National Defense Resource Preparation Executive Order
>
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness
>
> Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (which unlike the misleading name can
> and has been used domestically against Americans)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act
>
> The Patriot Act
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act
>
> Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act- not yet law but getting
> there
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Intelligence_Sharing_and_Protection_Act
>
> Total Information Awareness
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office
>
> Echelon
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_%28signals_intelligence%29
>
> Also look into the new data center that the NSA is building in Utah.
>
> If you don't think this stuff is for real, you aren't paying attention.
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Sounds like he's saying the Gov can deem you guilty using it's own
> > idea of 'due
> > process', over and above the courts."
> >
> > It means the government can drone your ass or black bag you anytime it
> > wants to, Constitution be damned.  At least according to Obama appointee
> > Holder.
> >
> > Most of you know that the following is not my kind of website.  However,
> if
> > Mother Jones gets the picture, it shouldn't be hard for others.
> >
> >
> > When the US Government Can Kill You, Explained
> >
> > Speaking to students and faculty at Northwestern University law school,
> > Attorney General Eric Holder laid out in greater detail than ever before
> > the legal theory behind the administration's belief that it can kill
> > American citizens suspected of terrorism without charge or trial. In the
> > 5,000-word speech, the nation's top law enforcement official directly
> > confronted critics who allege that the targeted killing of American
> > citizens violates the Constitution.
> >
> > "'Due process' and 'judicial process' are not one and the same,
> > particularly when it comes to national security." Holder said. "The
> > Constitution guarantees due process, not judicial process."
> >
> > Who decides when an American citizen has had enough due process and the
> > Hellfire missile fairy pays them a visit? Presumably the group of top
> > national security officials葉hat, according to Defense Secretary Leon
> > Panetta, decides who is targetable and forwards its findings to the
> > president, who gives final approval.
> >
> > There won't be any drone strikes in Denver anytime soon. But you might
> want
> > to be careful when traveling abroad, because Holder made it clear that
> > there are no geographical limits in the fight against Al Qaeda. "Neither
> > Congress nor our federal courts has limited the geographic scope of our
> > ability to use force to the current conflict in Afghanistan," Holder
> said.
> > "We are at war with a stateless enemy, prone to shifting operations from
> > country to country."
> >
> > http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/03/eric-holder-targeted-killing
> >
> > J
> >
> > -
> >
> > Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad
> reputation.
> > - Henry Kissinger
> >
> > Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel,
> > go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton
> >
> >
>
> 

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