Not sure why you are questioning me about this. All i inquired about was the government sending us automated speeding tickets. That's it. No comment on CISPA or any of this other stuff. Just speeding tickets.
I guess I should know better than to even hint that the government might not be up to the worst possible kinds of nefarious acts...lest I be deemed "naive". On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:59 AM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > GMoney, have you ever heard of Total Information Awareness, or Echelon? > > Have you looked into any of the more recent laws I have gone on and on > about? > > Here's a small list to spend some time with should you feel like seeing > what seems to be a very real pattern to soldify the hold of the police > state, and do away with our constituional rights: > > National Defense Authorization Act for 2012 > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012 > > National Defense Resource Preparation Executive Order > > http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness > > Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (which unlike the misleading name can > and has been used domestically against Americans) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act > > The Patriot Act > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act > > Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act- not yet law but getting > there > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Intelligence_Sharing_and_Protection_Act > > Total Information Awareness > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office > > Echelon > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_%28signals_intelligence%29 > > Also look into the new data center that the NSA is building in Utah. > > If you don't think this stuff is for real, you aren't paying attention. > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > "Sounds like he's saying the Gov can deem you guilty using it's own > > idea of 'due > > process', over and above the courts." > > > > It means the government can drone your ass or black bag you anytime it > > wants to, Constitution be damned. At least according to Obama appointee > > Holder. > > > > Most of you know that the following is not my kind of website. However, > if > > Mother Jones gets the picture, it shouldn't be hard for others. > > > > > > When the US Government Can Kill You, Explained > > > > Speaking to students and faculty at Northwestern University law school, > > Attorney General Eric Holder laid out in greater detail than ever before > > the legal theory behind the administration's belief that it can kill > > American citizens suspected of terrorism without charge or trial. In the > > 5,000-word speech, the nation's top law enforcement official directly > > confronted critics who allege that the targeted killing of American > > citizens violates the Constitution. > > > > "'Due process' and 'judicial process' are not one and the same, > > particularly when it comes to national security." Holder said. "The > > Constitution guarantees due process, not judicial process." > > > > Who decides when an American citizen has had enough due process and the > > Hellfire missile fairy pays them a visit? Presumably the group of top > > national security officialsèhat, according to Defense Secretary Leon > > Panetta, decides who is targetable and forwards its findings to the > > president, who gives final approval. > > > > There won't be any drone strikes in Denver anytime soon. But you might > want > > to be careful when traveling abroad, because Holder made it clear that > > there are no geographical limits in the fight against Al Qaeda. "Neither > > Congress nor our federal courts has limited the geographic scope of our > > ability to use force to the current conflict in Afghanistan," Holder > said. > > "We are at war with a stateless enemy, prone to shifting operations from > > country to country." > > > > http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/03/eric-holder-targeted-killing > > > > J > > > > - > > > > Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad > reputation. > > - Henry Kissinger > > > > Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, > > go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:350341 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm