Echelon and Carnivore... -----Original Message----- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 11:59 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: New law mandates black boxes in all cars by 2015
GMoney, have you ever heard of Total Information Awareness, or Echelon? Have you looked into any of the more recent laws I have gone on and on about? Here's a small list to spend some time with should you feel like seeing what seems to be a very real pattern to soldify the hold of the police state, and do away with our constituional rights: National Defense Authorization Act for 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Y ear_2012 National Defense Resource Preparation Executive Order http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-nation al-defense-resources-preparedness Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (which unlike the misleading name can and has been used domestically against Americans) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act The Patriot Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act- not yet law but getting there http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Intelligence_Sharing_and_Protection_Act Total Information Awareness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office Echelon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_%28signals_intelligence%29 Also look into the new data center that the NSA is building in Utah. If you don't think this stuff is for real, you aren't paying attention. On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com> wrote: > > "Sounds like he's saying the Gov can deem you guilty using it's own > idea of 'due process', over and above the courts." > > It means the government can drone your ass or black bag you anytime it > wants to, Constitution be damned. At least according to Obama > appointee Holder. > > Most of you know that the following is not my kind of website. > However, if Mother Jones gets the picture, it shouldn't be hard for others. > > > When the US Government Can Kill You, Explained > > Speaking to students and faculty at Northwestern University law > school, Attorney General Eric Holder laid out in greater detail than > ever before the legal theory behind the administration's belief that > it can kill American citizens suspected of terrorism without charge or > trial. In the 5,000-word speech, the nation's top law enforcement > official directly confronted critics who allege that the targeted > killing of American citizens violates the Constitution. > > "'Due process' and 'judicial process' are not one and the same, > particularly when it comes to national security." Holder said. "The > Constitution guarantees due process, not judicial process." > > Who decides when an American citizen has had enough due process and > the Hellfire missile fairy pays them a visit? Presumably the group of > top national security officialsèhat, according to Defense Secretary > Leon Panetta, decides who is targetable and forwards its findings to > the president, who gives final approval. > > There won't be any drone strikes in Denver anytime soon. But you might > want to be careful when traveling abroad, because Holder made it clear > that there are no geographical limits in the fight against Al Qaeda. > "Neither Congress nor our federal courts has limited the geographic > scope of our ability to use force to the current conflict in Afghanistan," Holder said. > "We are at war with a stateless enemy, prone to shifting operations > from country to country." > > http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/03/eric-holder-targeted-killing > > J > > - > > Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. > - Henry Kissinger > > Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the > tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:350373 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
