since I'm the one that made the leap... yes, it seems a bit of a reach, you're right. But so is having the Department of Homeland Security tackle the question of counterfeit handbags. And that's where we are now, is my point.
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:16 AM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Not sure why you are questioning me about this. > > All i inquired about was the government sending us automated speeding > tickets. That's it. No comment on CISPA or any of this other stuff. Just > speeding tickets. > > I guess I should know better than to even hint that the government might > not be up to the worst possible kinds of nefarious acts...lest I be deemed > "naive". > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:59 AM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> GMoney, have you ever heard of Total Information Awareness, or Echelon? >> >> Have you looked into any of the more recent laws I have gone on and on >> about? >> >> Here's a small list to spend some time with should you feel like seeing >> what seems to be a very real pattern to soldify the hold of the police >> state, and do away with our constituional rights: >> >> National Defense Authorization Act for 2012 >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012 >> >> National Defense Resource Preparation Executive Order >> >> http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness >> >> Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (which unlike the misleading name can >> and has been used domestically against Americans) >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act >> >> The Patriot Act >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act >> >> Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act- not yet law but getting >> there >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Intelligence_Sharing_and_Protection_Act >> >> Total Information Awareness >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office >> >> Echelon >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_%28signals_intelligence%29 >> >> Also look into the new data center that the NSA is building in Utah. >> >> If you don't think this stuff is for real, you aren't paying attention. >> >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >> > "Sounds like he's saying the Gov can deem you guilty using it's own >> > idea of 'due >> > process', over and above the courts." >> > >> > It means the government can drone your ass or black bag you anytime it >> > wants to, Constitution be damned. Â At least according to Obama appointee >> > Holder. >> > >> > Most of you know that the following is not my kind of website. Â However, >> if >> > Mother Jones gets the picture, it shouldn't be hard for others. >> > >> > >> > When the US Government Can Kill You, Explained >> > >> > Speaking to students and faculty at Northwestern University law school, >> > Attorney General Eric Holder laid out in greater detail than ever before >> > the legal theory behind the administration's belief that it can kill >> > American citizens suspected of terrorism without charge or trial. In the >> > 5,000-word speech, the nation's top law enforcement official directly >> > confronted critics who allege that the targeted killing of American >> > citizens violates the Constitution. >> > >> > "'Due process' and 'judicial process' are not one and the same, >> > particularly when it comes to national security." Holder said. "The >> > Constitution guarantees due process, not judicial process." >> > >> > Who decides when an American citizen has had enough due process and the >> > Hellfire missile fairy pays them a visit? Presumably the group of top >> > national security officialsèhat, according to Defense Secretary Leon >> > Panetta, decides who is targetable and forwards its findings to the >> > president, who gives final approval. >> > >> > There won't be any drone strikes in Denver anytime soon. But you might >> want >> > to be careful when traveling abroad, because Holder made it clear that >> > there are no geographical limits in the fight against Al Qaeda. "Neither >> > Congress nor our federal courts has limited the geographic scope of our >> > ability to use force to the current conflict in Afghanistan," Holder >> said. >> > "We are at war with a stateless enemy, prone to shifting operations from >> > country to country." >> > >> > http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/03/eric-holder-targeted-killing >> > >> > J >> > >> > - >> > >> > Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad >> reputation. >> > - Henry Kissinger >> > >> > Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, >> > go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:350342 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
