Ok, seriously, does it matter if they are doing it out of malice or just the best of reasons?
I know good people in government, they exist. But I knew far more that were lazy or inept, GS, at every level is and had been broken. On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:16 PM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Not sure why you are questioning me about this. > > All i inquired about was the government sending us automated speeding > tickets. That's it. No comment on CISPA or any of this other stuff. Just > speeding tickets. > > I guess I should know better than to even hint that the government might > not be up to the worst possible kinds of nefarious acts...lest I be deemed > "naive". > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:59 AM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > GMoney, have you ever heard of Total Information Awareness, or Echelon? > > > > Have you looked into any of the more recent laws I have gone on and on > > about? > > > > Here's a small list to spend some time with should you feel like seeing > > what seems to be a very real pattern to soldify the hold of the police > > state, and do away with our constituional rights: > > > > National Defense Authorization Act for 2012 > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012 > > > > National Defense Resource Preparation Executive Order > > > > > http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness > > > > Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (which unlike the misleading name > can > > and has been used domestically against Americans) > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act > > > > The Patriot Act > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act > > > > Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act- not yet law but getting > > there > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Intelligence_Sharing_and_Protection_Act > > > > Total Information Awareness > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office > > > > Echelon > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_%28signals_intelligence%29 > > > > Also look into the new data center that the NSA is building in Utah. > > > > If you don't think this stuff is for real, you aren't paying attention. > > > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > "Sounds like he's saying the Gov can deem you guilty using it's own > > > idea of 'due > > > process', over and above the courts." > > > > > > It means the government can drone your ass or black bag you anytime it > > > wants to, Constitution be damned. At least according to Obama > appointee > > > Holder. > > > > > > Most of you know that the following is not my kind of website. > However, > > if > > > Mother Jones gets the picture, it shouldn't be hard for others. > > > > > > > > > When the US Government Can Kill You, Explained > > > > > > Speaking to students and faculty at Northwestern University law school, > > > Attorney General Eric Holder laid out in greater detail than ever > before > > > the legal theory behind the administration's belief that it can kill > > > American citizens suspected of terrorism without charge or trial. In > the > > > 5,000-word speech, the nation's top law enforcement official directly > > > confronted critics who allege that the targeted killing of American > > > citizens violates the Constitution. > > > > > > "'Due process' and 'judicial process' are not one and the same, > > > particularly when it comes to national security." Holder said. "The > > > Constitution guarantees due process, not judicial process." > > > > > > Who decides when an American citizen has had enough due process and the > > > Hellfire missile fairy pays them a visit? Presumably the group of top > > > national security officialsèhat, according to Defense Secretary Leon > > > Panetta, decides who is targetable and forwards its findings to the > > > president, who gives final approval. > > > > > > There won't be any drone strikes in Denver anytime soon. But you might > > want > > > to be careful when traveling abroad, because Holder made it clear that > > > there are no geographical limits in the fight against Al Qaeda. > "Neither > > > Congress nor our federal courts has limited the geographic scope of our > > > ability to use force to the current conflict in Afghanistan," Holder > > said. > > > "We are at war with a stateless enemy, prone to shifting operations > from > > > country to country." > > > > > > http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/03/eric-holder-targeted-killing > > > > > > J > > > > > > - > > > > > > Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad > > reputation. > > > - Henry Kissinger > > > > > > Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the > tunnel, > > > go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:350344 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
