Hey, Hitler did wonders for the German economy.

Haha *Godwin's Law* of Nazi Analogies, I win.

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> heh. I agree with about half of that. But.
>
> AT LEAST HE MADE THE GESTURE.
>
> some sort of sanity in a year that hasn't had very much.
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:12 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/531699_331943153542824_103005129769962_804362_1485757734_n.jpg
> >
> > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I think that's kinda true except I started from supporting him and I
> > gather
> > > you didn't
> > >
> > >  support due to his actions in regards to privacy,
> > >
> > >
> > > definitely a disappointment in this area
> > >
> > >
> > > > in continuing Bush era policies,
> > >
> > >
> > > and this one
> > >
> > >
> > > > in the ever growing national debt and the horrible economy.
> > >
> > >
> > > Inherited, and handicapped by the mistaken assumption that the
> > Republicans
> > > would do the right thing. So his error, sure. But there is more than
> > enough
> > > blame to go around on this one, starting with the disastrous tax
> policies
> > > of his predecessor.
> > >
> > >
> > > > He
> > > > has shown time and again that he doesn't feel the need to meet his
> > > campaign
> > > > promises (or those given in office)
> > >
> > >
> > > he tries to show good faith but he concedes way too much upfront to
> > people
> > > who have publicly pledged not to compromise with him.
> > >
> > >
> > > > and he is failing to inspire the youth
> > > > vote
> > >
> > >
> > > duh, after all that, was he inspiring *anyone*?
> > >
> > >
> > > > and the independent vote the way he did last election, so in
> > > > traditional wag the dog manner, with Houdini like reflexes, he's
> > changed
> > > > everyone's focus.
> > > >
> > > I wouldn't put it that way. I'd say something closer to maybe he said
> > what
> > > the hell, I'll either win or I won't and if I lose it may as well be
> for
> > > trying to do what I want for a change....
> > >
> > > That's my take
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > once Biden opened his mouth Obama would have looked weak if he
> tried
> > to
> > > > > spin it. And the Defense of Marriage crew weren't going to be on
> his
> > > side
> > > > > for the most part anyway, with the exception of the fundamentalist
> > > black
> > > > > community. They are the question mark. Don't think they'll vote
> > against
> > > > > Obama but they might not vote for him.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons <
> > larrycly...@gmail.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think that he was simply being honest about what he thought
> about
> > > > > > it. I guess he would have preferred to wait but after Biden
> decided
> > > to
> > > > > > speak out, he thought he had no real reason not to.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Essentially it may be an empty issue, and best to get it out of
> the
> > > > > > way now rather than at a more critical point in the election.
> Which
> > > is
> > > > > > probably good because it shifts the conversation to more
> important
> > > > > > things, like the record of Mitt Romney viciously assaulting other
> > > kids
> > > > > > with scissors. during high school
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:13 PM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I agree....this does not seem to help him politically...at
> least
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > short term. I thought that was refreshing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BUT....politicians rarely do things that don't seem to help
> them
> > > > > > > politically....so maybe the Obama folks see a different angle
> on
> > > this
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > I don't.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Larry C. Lyons <
> > > > larrycly...@gmail.com
> > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> He really gains nothing from it. If anything it hurts him.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The teahadis who are mostly against same sex marriage are not
> > > going
> > > > to
> > > > > > >> vote for him anyhow. Those on the left will probably vote for
> > him
> > > > > > >> regardless, what other choice do they have. It will cost him
> > with
> > > a
> > > > > > >> lot of conservative black voters though. They are not going to
> > > vote
> > > > > > >> for Mittens, but they most likely will just stay home in
> > November.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:31 PM, LRS Scout <
> lrssc...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Political move to secure his left wing in an upcoming
> election
> > > > year
> > > > > > >> cycle.
> > > > > > >> > No more no less.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Eric Roberts <
> > > > > > >> > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> yeah...that was awesome.  it is never too late to do the
> > right
> > > > > thing.
> > > > > > >> >> Biden did sorta give him a kick in the backside on this.
>  Go
> > > Joe!
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Dana <
> > dana.tier...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > >> >> > I usually am not that engaged on this issue, but I did
> want
> > > to
> > > > > > note in
> > > > > > >> >> > passing that I applaud Obama for saying something about
> > this
> > > > when
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> >> > conventional wisdom was that it was not in his own best
> > > > interests
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >> do
> > > > > > >> >> so.
> > > > > > >> >> > Even if he was pushed :) He still did the right thing
> and I
> > > > > think a
> > > > > > >> >> little
> > > > > > >> >> > less cynically of him now because he did.
> > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > >> >> >
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> > > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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