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On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > for those interested: > > http://twitpic.com/tag/NATO > > Legalese: Retweets imply interest not endorsement. I am not there and > don't know the parties well enough to evaluate their statements. > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Eric Roberts < > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > >> >> The occupy movement as a whole has suffered from a virtual media blackout. >> You see it on local news, but national news has been largely silent. Our >> media has failed us as well. They are supposed to be the ones that call >> bullshit on politician when they make false claims. They are supposed to >> be >> making sure that people know what is going. Media is corporate >> controlled, >> so we see what corporate America wants us to see. That is fascism in all >> of >> it's dark and evil glory. I serious believe that revolution is the only >> solution. I just don't see this peaceful protest accomplish much more >> than >> it already has. Entrench power is dug in and they are not giving it up >> without a fight. Voter apathy guarantees it. If you look at amendment 1, >> 20 % of the voting population made it a constitutional amendment. >> 20%...70% >> of the population couldn't be bothered to vote. That is why we are where >> we >> are at. We are not holding out elected officials feet to the fire. We >> need >> to be gathered with torches and pitchforks. They should be scared >> shitless >> of us. >> >> I have friends in Oakland that were there as well. They said the same >> thing >> Dana said. Every report I have heard was the same. Outright naked police >> brutality and the mayor didn't do squat about it. She needs to be dragged >> out into the street and tear gassed. Maybe then she will understand. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:21 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: NATO Protests >> >> >> well, since there was no public outcry over Oakland there will probably be >> no public outcry over Chicago, much less any coverage. This is why it was >> important to save YouTube. I spent a lot of time I could not really afford >> working on SOPA because we *need* citizen journalists now that the >> majority >> of the media outlets have been bought. >> The problem with YouTube of course is that it's completely unfiltered, but >> if 5-6 different livestreamers show the same set of events from different >> angles then I htink it can be accepted as probably true. >> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:14 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> > I don't think you are ranting. Your message was short and concise. >> > >> > I heard about the marine, and I can't believe that with the video of >> > that event no one has been punished. >> > >> > I wish there were some way to get through to the people what is going. >> > Why is there so much apathy about the decline of our country as the >> > bastion of liberty in the world? >> > >> > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > I am already there. In Oakland they surrounded protesters, ordered >> > > them >> > to >> > > disperse, and arrested them for not doing so. That's not counting >> > > the teargas, which -- I can't help it -- is all the more >> > > unforgivable because my daughter was there. >> > > >> > > Let's not forget the veterans for peace marine who got hit in the >> > > head >> > with >> > > a tear gas canister at point-blank range. He was on multiple videos >> > seconds >> > > before not doing anything the least bit aggressive. Not even >> > > yelling. And so he's on the ground bleeding and people run up to >> > > lend some assistance >> > -- >> > > again, not threatening the cops in any way -- and they throw a flash >> > bang. >> > > WTF. This is absolutely indisputable: >> > > >> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKG0VntJW_A >> > > >> > > He's in there, standing and and laying wounded, right next to the >> > > Navy >> > vet >> > > with the flag. No question what happened. And nobody has been fired. >> > > The outside monitor said OPD used excessive force. But the only >> > > consequences have been to protesters. Some of those police officers >> are >> identifiable. >> > > But they have not been fired. >> > > Sorry, I know I am ranting. But I am really angry about this. And >> > > it's >> > only >> > > one story -- the mayors had a conference call one day and all of a >> > > sudden this sort of thing started happening nationwide. Gee. Am I >> > > supporting terrorism by saying so? Your guess is as good as mine. >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:47 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > > >> > > > I'm simply shocked at how under reported this fiasco is Chicago >> > > > has >> > been. >> > > > I feel it is a major indictment of our 4th estate. >> > > > >> > > > The videos of the police shows absolutely and beyond reproach that >> > > > the police are using intimidation to attempt to stifle 1st >> > > > amendment >> > rights. >> > > I >> > > > am disgusted by their behavior, and cops like that are one of the >> > > reasons I >> > > > have always had a fuck the police attitude. The militarization of >> > > > our >> > > law >> > > > enforcement is also well documented in here, and something else I >> > > despise. >> > > > >> > > > I will say that the NDAA connection is nebulous as they have been >> > charged >> > > > and given a bail amount, although excessive. I have read a bunch >> > > > about >> > > the >> > > > kids arrested and it seems that the police are fabricating >> > > > terrorism charges using home brew kits. Several of these kids are >> > > > known >> > pacifists, >> > > > and they are reasonably well known within various protest >> > > > movements >> > from >> > > > around the country. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that they >> > > > were stopped and question/intimidated several days earlier. I >> > > > have grave >> > > doubts >> > > > about the reality contained in the charges brought against them. >> > > > >> > > > It's also interesting to me that some of the outside police that >> > > > have >> > > been >> > > > brought in to back up the CPD are form Charlotte, N.C. where we >> > > > can >> > > assume >> > > > there will likely be similar protests at the DNC. >> > > > >> > > > As you know, while understand the seemingly valid complaints that >> > > > many >> > of >> > > > the protestors have, I do not always agree with their proposed >> > solutions. >> > > > I do however totally and without reservation support their right >> > > > to >> > > gather, >> > > > to march and to speak out; all of these things being central to >> > > > the >> > > liberty >> > > > of our republic. >> > > > >> > > > I become more disgusted by the actions of my government by the >> minute. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Eric Roberts < >> > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Unfortunately I can't get down there due to some medical issues >> > > > > I am >> > > > having >> > > > > *grrrrr grumble grumble* :-( I have been watching from afar >> > > > > and so >> > > far >> > > > > things have been peaceful. They arrested 3 people on trumped up >> > > charges >> > > > > Thursday in an attempt to intimidate protestors. The big >> > > > > protest is tomorrow near McCormick Place. From what I am >> > > > > hearing, the police >> > are >> > > > out >> > > > > there big time in full riot gear (sucks to be them since it is >> > > > > also >> > 97 >> > > > > degrees today *snicker*) Some are jokily saying there are more >> > police >> > > > > than >> > > > > protestors. They have a big protest today, Healthcare not >> > > > > Warfare at >> > > the >> > > > > Boeng HQ downtown. There was also a big rally (Tom Morello >> > > > > played at >> > > it) >> > > > > in >> > > > > Daley Plaza where there was a big rally of Nurses (they said >> > something >> > > > like >> > > > > 10,000+ nurses showed up...some from other states obviously). I >> > > > > was watching that livestream....I can post feeds as soon as I >> > > > > can find >> > them >> > > > > again. >> > > > > >> > > > > Info on the arrests: >> > > > > >> > > > > This is from the national Lawyers Guild, who defend occupy >> > > protesters... >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://www.facebook.com/notes/occupy-chicago-press-relations/nlg-rele >> > ases-n >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > onato-raid-photos-threatens-legal-action-against-city-if-arrestees/355 >> > 360537 >> > > > > 860447 >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2012/05/19/three-chicago-nato-summit-activ >> > ists-c >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > harged-with-conspiracy-to-commit-terrorism-providing-material-support- >> > for-te >> > > > > rrorism/ >> > > > > >> > > > > Earlier this week...the same guys were stopped by Chicago Police >> > > > > and harassed and threatened: >> > > > > >> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TudIyxxAboA >> > > > > >> > > > > A good video released by Occupy Portland on this: >> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB10DF2Pbl8 >> > > > > >> > > > > This ties in well with our NDAA discussion >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > http://betweenthelines.blogspot.com/2012/05/terrorism-charges-for-chic >> > ago-an >> > > > > ti-nato.html >> > > > > >> > > > > The "Official" stories on the arrests: >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > http://www.suntimes.com/news/12635179-761/nato-3-had-targeted-obama-ca >> > mpaign >> > > > > -hq-rahms-house-police-stations-prosecutors-say.html >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/19/11765588-attacks-on-chica >> > go-pol >> > > > > ice-stations-obama-office-were-planned-prosecutors-say?lite >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Pics from Friday and today via occupy Chicago: >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > http://occupywallst.org/article/today-chicago-health-care-not-warfare- >> > watch- >> > > > > live/ (this has a link to a livestream of events going on around >> > > > > the city...the button is on the toolbar up top) >> > > > > >> > > > > Pic of Tom Morello anf the Nurse's Rally: >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=369550743103518&set=a.36949691 >> > 644223 >> > > > > 4.87363.100001457865597&type=1&theater >> > > > > >> > > > > Pic of Chicago Police from last night: >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2865440934987&set=a.1021509917 >> > 864.32 >> > > > > 38.1828697981&type=1&theater >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] >> > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:28 PM >> > > > > To: cf-community >> > > > > Subject: NATO Protests >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Hey Eric have you been downtown? >> > > > > >> > > > > What are you seeing? >> > > > > >> > > > > Not hearing too much chatter, but the city did a lot to prevent >> > > > > real protest prior to the convention. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/may/18/nato-su >> > mmit-t >> > > > > emplate-policing-other-chicago?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9038 >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:350933 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm