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On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/therevolutionwillbestreamed#utm_campaign=t.co&utm_source=9917042&utm_medium=social > > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> for those interested: >> >> http://twitpic.com/tag/NATO >> >> Legalese: Retweets imply interest not endorsement. I am not there and >> don't know the parties well enough to evaluate their statements. >> >> >> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Eric Roberts < >> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> The occupy movement as a whole has suffered from a virtual media >>> blackout. >>> You see it on local news, but national news has been largely silent. Our >>> media has failed us as well. They are supposed to be the ones that call >>> bullshit on politician when they make false claims. They are supposed >>> to be >>> making sure that people know what is going. Media is corporate >>> controlled, >>> so we see what corporate America wants us to see. That is fascism in >>> all of >>> it's dark and evil glory. I serious believe that revolution is the only >>> solution. I just don't see this peaceful protest accomplish much more >>> than >>> it already has. Entrench power is dug in and they are not giving it up >>> without a fight. Voter apathy guarantees it. If you look at amendment >>> 1, >>> 20 % of the voting population made it a constitutional amendment. >>> 20%...70% >>> of the population couldn't be bothered to vote. That is why we are >>> where we >>> are at. We are not holding out elected officials feet to the fire. We >>> need >>> to be gathered with torches and pitchforks. They should be scared >>> shitless >>> of us. >>> >>> I have friends in Oakland that were there as well. They said the same >>> thing >>> Dana said. Every report I have heard was the same. Outright naked >>> police >>> brutality and the mayor didn't do squat about it. She needs to be >>> dragged >>> out into the street and tear gassed. Maybe then she will understand. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:21 PM >>> To: cf-community >>> Subject: Re: NATO Protests >>> >>> >>> well, since there was no public outcry over Oakland there will probably >>> be >>> no public outcry over Chicago, much less any coverage. This is why it was >>> important to save YouTube. I spent a lot of time I could not really >>> afford >>> working on SOPA because we *need* citizen journalists now that the >>> majority >>> of the media outlets have been bought. >>> The problem with YouTube of course is that it's completely unfiltered, >>> but >>> if 5-6 different livestreamers show the same set of events from different >>> angles then I htink it can be accepted as probably true. >>> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:14 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > >>> > I don't think you are ranting. Your message was short and concise. >>> > >>> > I heard about the marine, and I can't believe that with the video of >>> > that event no one has been punished. >>> > >>> > I wish there were some way to get through to the people what is going. >>> > Why is there so much apathy about the decline of our country as the >>> > bastion of liberty in the world? >>> > >>> > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > > >>> > > I am already there. In Oakland they surrounded protesters, ordered >>> > > them >>> > to >>> > > disperse, and arrested them for not doing so. That's not counting >>> > > the teargas, which -- I can't help it -- is all the more >>> > > unforgivable because my daughter was there. >>> > > >>> > > Let's not forget the veterans for peace marine who got hit in the >>> > > head >>> > with >>> > > a tear gas canister at point-blank range. He was on multiple videos >>> > seconds >>> > > before not doing anything the least bit aggressive. Not even >>> > > yelling. And so he's on the ground bleeding and people run up to >>> > > lend some assistance >>> > -- >>> > > again, not threatening the cops in any way -- and they throw a flash >>> > bang. >>> > > WTF. This is absolutely indisputable: >>> > > >>> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKG0VntJW_A >>> > > >>> > > He's in there, standing and and laying wounded, right next to the >>> > > Navy >>> > vet >>> > > with the flag. No question what happened. And nobody has been fired. >>> > > The outside monitor said OPD used excessive force. But the only >>> > > consequences have been to protesters. Some of those police officers >>> are >>> identifiable. >>> > > But they have not been fired. >>> > > Sorry, I know I am ranting. But I am really angry about this. And >>> > > it's >>> > only >>> > > one story -- the mayors had a conference call one day and all of a >>> > > sudden this sort of thing started happening nationwide. Gee. Am I >>> > > supporting terrorism by saying so? Your guess is as good as mine. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:47 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > I'm simply shocked at how under reported this fiasco is Chicago >>> > > > has >>> > been. >>> > > > I feel it is a major indictment of our 4th estate. >>> > > > >>> > > > The videos of the police shows absolutely and beyond reproach that >>> > > > the police are using intimidation to attempt to stifle 1st >>> > > > amendment >>> > rights. >>> > > I >>> > > > am disgusted by their behavior, and cops like that are one of the >>> > > reasons I >>> > > > have always had a fuck the police attitude. The militarization of >>> > > > our >>> > > law >>> > > > enforcement is also well documented in here, and something else I >>> > > despise. >>> > > > >>> > > > I will say that the NDAA connection is nebulous as they have been >>> > charged >>> > > > and given a bail amount, although excessive. I have read a bunch >>> > > > about >>> > > the >>> > > > kids arrested and it seems that the police are fabricating >>> > > > terrorism charges using home brew kits. Several of these kids are >>> > > > known >>> > pacifists, >>> > > > and they are reasonably well known within various protest >>> > > > movements >>> > from >>> > > > around the country. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that they >>> > > > were stopped and question/intimidated several days earlier. I >>> > > > have grave >>> > > doubts >>> > > > about the reality contained in the charges brought against them. >>> > > > >>> > > > It's also interesting to me that some of the outside police that >>> > > > have >>> > > been >>> > > > brought in to back up the CPD are form Charlotte, N.C. where we >>> > > > can >>> > > assume >>> > > > there will likely be similar protests at the DNC. >>> > > > >>> > > > As you know, while understand the seemingly valid complaints that >>> > > > many >>> > of >>> > > > the protestors have, I do not always agree with their proposed >>> > solutions. >>> > > > I do however totally and without reservation support their right >>> > > > to >>> > > gather, >>> > > > to march and to speak out; all of these things being central to >>> > > > the >>> > > liberty >>> > > > of our republic. >>> > > > >>> > > > I become more disgusted by the actions of my government by the >>> minute. >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Eric Roberts < >>> > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Unfortunately I can't get down there due to some medical issues >>> > > > > I am >>> > > > having >>> > > > > *grrrrr grumble grumble* :-( I have been watching from afar >>> > > > > and so >>> > > far >>> > > > > things have been peaceful. They arrested 3 people on trumped up >>> > > charges >>> > > > > Thursday in an attempt to intimidate protestors. The big >>> > > > > protest is tomorrow near McCormick Place. From what I am >>> > > > > hearing, the police >>> > are >>> > > > out >>> > > > > there big time in full riot gear (sucks to be them since it is >>> > > > > also >>> > 97 >>> > > > > degrees today *snicker*) Some are jokily saying there are more >>> > police >>> > > > > than >>> > > > > protestors. They have a big protest today, Healthcare not >>> > > > > Warfare at >>> > > the >>> > > > > Boeng HQ downtown. There was also a big rally (Tom Morello >>> > > > > played at >>> > > it) >>> > > > > in >>> > > > > Daley Plaza where there was a big rally of Nurses (they said >>> > something >>> > > > like >>> > > > > 10,000+ nurses showed up...some from other states obviously). I >>> > > > > was watching that livestream....I can post feeds as soon as I >>> > > > > can find >>> > them >>> > > > > again. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Info on the arrests: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > This is from the national Lawyers Guild, who defend occupy >>> > > protesters... >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > https://www.facebook.com/notes/occupy-chicago-press-relations/nlg-rele >>> > ases-n >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > onato-raid-photos-threatens-legal-action-against-city-if-arrestees/355 >>> > 360537 >>> > > > > 860447 >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2012/05/19/three-chicago-nato-summit-activ >>> > ists-c >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > harged-with-conspiracy-to-commit-terrorism-providing-material-support- >>> > for-te >>> > > > > rrorism/ >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Earlier this week...the same guys were stopped by Chicago Police >>> > > > > and harassed and threatened: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TudIyxxAboA >>> > > > > >>> > > > > A good video released by Occupy Portland on this: >>> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB10DF2Pbl8 >>> > > > > >>> > > > > This ties in well with our NDAA discussion >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > http://betweenthelines.blogspot.com/2012/05/terrorism-charges-for-chic >>> > ago-an >>> > > > > ti-nato.html >>> > > > > >>> > > > > The "Official" stories on the arrests: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > http://www.suntimes.com/news/12635179-761/nato-3-had-targeted-obama-ca >>> > mpaign >>> > > > > -hq-rahms-house-police-stations-prosecutors-say.html >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/19/11765588-attacks-on-chica >>> > go-pol >>> > > > > ice-stations-obama-office-were-planned-prosecutors-say?lite >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Pics from Friday and today via occupy Chicago: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > http://occupywallst.org/article/today-chicago-health-care-not-warfare- >>> > watch- >>> > > > > live/ (this has a link to a livestream of events going on around >>> > > > > the city...the button is on the toolbar up top) >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Pic of Tom Morello anf the Nurse's Rally: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=369550743103518&set=a.36949691 >>> > 644223 >>> > > > > 4.87363.100001457865597&type=1&theater >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Pic of Chicago Police from last night: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2865440934987&set=a.1021509917 >>> > 864.32 >>> > > > > 38.1828697981&type=1&theater >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] >>> > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:28 PM >>> > > > > To: cf-community >>> > > > > Subject: NATO Protests >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Hey Eric have you been downtown? >>> > > > > >>> > > > > What are you seeing? >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Not hearing too much chatter, but the city did a lot to prevent >>> > > > > real protest prior to the convention. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/may/18/nato-su >>> > mmit-t >>> > > > > emplate-policing-other-chicago?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9038 >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:350935 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm