At Tiananmen Square, the tank *stopped* On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:41 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Shades of Tiananmen Square. > > I wish I had more than $300 in the bank. I shouldn't be sitting at home > during this. > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > whoa > > > > > > > http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/22714270/highlight/264637#utm_campaign=unknown&utm_source=264637&utm_medium=social > > > > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/therevolutionwillbestreamed#utm_campaign=t.co&utm_source=9917042&utm_medium=social > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> for those interested: > > >> > > >> http://twitpic.com/tag/NATO > > >> > > >> Legalese: Retweets imply interest not endorsement. I am not there and > > >> don't know the parties well enough to evaluate their statements. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Eric Roberts < > > >> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> > > >>> The occupy movement as a whole has suffered from a virtual media > > >>> blackout. > > >>> You see it on local news, but national news has been largely silent. > > Our > > >>> media has failed us as well. They are supposed to be the ones that > > call > > >>> bullshit on politician when they make false claims. They are > supposed > > >>> to be > > >>> making sure that people know what is going. Media is corporate > > >>> controlled, > > >>> so we see what corporate America wants us to see. That is fascism in > > >>> all of > > >>> it's dark and evil glory. I serious believe that revolution is the > > only > > >>> solution. I just don't see this peaceful protest accomplish much > more > > >>> than > > >>> it already has. Entrench power is dug in and they are not giving it > up > > >>> without a fight. Voter apathy guarantees it. If you look at > amendment > > >>> 1, > > >>> 20 % of the voting population made it a constitutional amendment. > > >>> 20%...70% > > >>> of the population couldn't be bothered to vote. That is why we are > > >>> where we > > >>> are at. We are not holding out elected officials feet to the fire. > We > > >>> need > > >>> to be gathered with torches and pitchforks. They should be scared > > >>> shitless > > >>> of us. > > >>> > > >>> I have friends in Oakland that were there as well. They said the > same > > >>> thing > > >>> Dana said. Every report I have heard was the same. Outright naked > > >>> police > > >>> brutality and the mayor didn't do squat about it. She needs to be > > >>> dragged > > >>> out into the street and tear gassed. Maybe then she will understand. > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] > > >>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:21 PM > > >>> To: cf-community > > >>> Subject: Re: NATO Protests > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> well, since there was no public outcry over Oakland there will > probably > > >>> be > > >>> no public outcry over Chicago, much less any coverage. This is why it > > was > > >>> important to save YouTube. I spent a lot of time I could not really > > >>> afford > > >>> working on SOPA because we *need* citizen journalists now that the > > >>> majority > > >>> of the media outlets have been bought. > > >>> The problem with YouTube of course is that it's completely > unfiltered, > > >>> but > > >>> if 5-6 different livestreamers show the same set of events from > > different > > >>> angles then I htink it can be accepted as probably true. > > >>> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:14 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > I don't think you are ranting. Your message was short and concise. > > >>> > > > >>> > I heard about the marine, and I can't believe that with the video > of > > >>> > that event no one has been punished. > > >>> > > > >>> > I wish there were some way to get through to the people what is > > going. > > >>> > Why is there so much apathy about the decline of our country as the > > >>> > bastion of liberty in the world? > > >>> > > > >>> > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I am already there. In Oakland they surrounded protesters, > ordered > > >>> > > them > > >>> > to > > >>> > > disperse, and arrested them for not doing so. That's not counting > > >>> > > the teargas, which -- I can't help it -- is all the more > > >>> > > unforgivable because my daughter was there. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Let's not forget the veterans for peace marine who got hit in the > > >>> > > head > > >>> > with > > >>> > > a tear gas canister at point-blank range. He was on multiple > videos > > >>> > seconds > > >>> > > before not doing anything the least bit aggressive. Not even > > >>> > > yelling. And so he's on the ground bleeding and people run up to > > >>> > > lend some assistance > > >>> > -- > > >>> > > again, not threatening the cops in any way -- and they throw a > > flash > > >>> > bang. > > >>> > > WTF. This is absolutely indisputable: > > >>> > > > > >>> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKG0VntJW_A > > >>> > > > > >>> > > He's in there, standing and and laying wounded, right next to the > > >>> > > Navy > > >>> > vet > > >>> > > with the flag. No question what happened. And nobody has been > > fired. > > >>> > > The outside monitor said OPD used excessive force. But the only > > >>> > > consequences have been to protesters. Some of those police > officers > > >>> are > > >>> identifiable. > > >>> > > But they have not been fired. > > >>> > > Sorry, I know I am ranting. But I am really angry about this. And > > >>> > > it's > > >>> > only > > >>> > > one story -- the mayors had a conference call one day and all of > a > > >>> > > sudden this sort of thing started happening nationwide. Gee. Am I > > >>> > > supporting terrorism by saying so? Your guess is as good as mine. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:47 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > I'm simply shocked at how under reported this fiasco is Chicago > > >>> > > > has > > >>> > been. > > >>> > > > I feel it is a major indictment of our 4th estate. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > The videos of the police shows absolutely and beyond reproach > > that > > >>> > > > the police are using intimidation to attempt to stifle 1st > > >>> > > > amendment > > >>> > rights. > > >>> > > I > > >>> > > > am disgusted by their behavior, and cops like that are one of > the > > >>> > > reasons I > > >>> > > > have always had a fuck the police attitude. The militarization > > of > > >>> > > > our > > >>> > > law > > >>> > > > enforcement is also well documented in here, and something > else I > > >>> > > despise. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > I will say that the NDAA connection is nebulous as they have > been > > >>> > charged > > >>> > > > and given a bail amount, although excessive. I have read a > bunch > > >>> > > > about > > >>> > > the > > >>> > > > kids arrested and it seems that the police are fabricating > > >>> > > > terrorism charges using home brew kits. Several of these kids > > are > > >>> > > > known > > >>> > pacifists, > > >>> > > > and they are reasonably well known within various protest > > >>> > > > movements > > >>> > from > > >>> > > > around the country. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that they > > >>> > > > were stopped and question/intimidated several days earlier. I > > >>> > > > have grave > > >>> > > doubts > > >>> > > > about the reality contained in the charges brought against > them. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > It's also interesting to me that some of the outside police > that > > >>> > > > have > > >>> > > been > > >>> > > > brought in to back up the CPD are form Charlotte, N.C. where > we > > >>> > > > can > > >>> > > assume > > >>> > > > there will likely be similar protests at the DNC. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > As you know, while understand the seemingly valid complaints > that > > >>> > > > many > > >>> > of > > >>> > > > the protestors have, I do not always agree with their proposed > > >>> > solutions. > > >>> > > > I do however totally and without reservation support their > right > > >>> > > > to > > >>> > > gather, > > >>> > > > to march and to speak out; all of these things being central to > > >>> > > > the > > >>> > > liberty > > >>> > > > of our republic. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > I become more disgusted by the actions of my government by the > > >>> minute. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Eric Roberts < > > >>> > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Unfortunately I can't get down there due to some medical > issues > > >>> > > > > I am > > >>> > > > having > > >>> > > > > *grrrrr grumble grumble* :-( I have been watching from afar > > >>> > > > > and so > > >>> > > far > > >>> > > > > things have been peaceful. They arrested 3 people on trumped > > up > > >>> > > charges > > >>> > > > > Thursday in an attempt to intimidate protestors. The big > > >>> > > > > protest is tomorrow near McCormick Place. From what I am > > >>> > > > > hearing, the police > > >>> > are > > >>> > > > out > > >>> > > > > there big time in full riot gear (sucks to be them since it > is > > >>> > > > > also > > >>> > 97 > > >>> > > > > degrees today *snicker*) Some are jokily saying there are > > more > > >>> > police > > >>> > > > > than > > >>> > > > > protestors. They have a big protest today, Healthcare not > > >>> > > > > Warfare at > > >>> > > the > > >>> > > > > Boeng HQ downtown. There was also a big rally (Tom Morello > > >>> > > > > played at > > >>> > > it) > > >>> > > > > in > > >>> > > > > Daley Plaza where there was a big rally of Nurses (they said > > >>> > something > > >>> > > > like > > >>> > > > > 10,000+ nurses showed up...some from other states obviously). > > I > > >>> > > > > was watching that livestream....I can post feeds as soon as I > > >>> > > > > can find > > >>> > them > > >>> > > > > again. > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Info on the arrests: > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > This is from the national Lawyers Guild, who defend occupy > > >>> > > protesters... > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > https://www.facebook.com/notes/occupy-chicago-press-relations/nlg-rele > > >>> > ases-n > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > onato-raid-photos-threatens-legal-action-against-city-if-arrestees/355 > > >>> > 360537 > > >>> > > > > 860447 > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2012/05/19/three-chicago-nato-summit-activ > > >>> > ists-c > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > harged-with-conspiracy-to-commit-terrorism-providing-material-support- > > >>> > for-te > > >>> > > > > rrorism/ > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Earlier this week...the same guys were stopped by Chicago > > Police > > >>> > > > > and harassed and threatened: > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TudIyxxAboA > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > A good video released by Occupy Portland on this: > > >>> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB10DF2Pbl8 > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > This ties in well with our NDAA discussion > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > http://betweenthelines.blogspot.com/2012/05/terrorism-charges-for-chic > > >>> > ago-an > > >>> > > > > ti-nato.html > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > The "Official" stories on the arrests: > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > http://www.suntimes.com/news/12635179-761/nato-3-had-targeted-obama-ca > > >>> > mpaign > > >>> > > > > -hq-rahms-house-police-stations-prosecutors-say.html > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/19/11765588-attacks-on-chica > > >>> > go-pol > > >>> > > > > ice-stations-obama-office-were-planned-prosecutors-say?lite > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Pics from Friday and today via occupy Chicago: > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > http://occupywallst.org/article/today-chicago-health-care-not-warfare- > > >>> > watch- > > >>> > > > > live/ (this has a link to a livestream of events going on > > around > > >>> > > > > the city...the button is on the toolbar up top) > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Pic of Tom Morello anf the Nurse's Rally: > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=369550743103518&set=a.36949691 > > >>> > 644223 > > >>> > > > > 4.87363.100001457865597&type=1&theater > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Pic of Chicago Police from last night: > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2865440934987&set=a.1021509917 > > >>> > 864.32 > > >>> > > > > 38.1828697981&type=1&theater > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >>> > > > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > > >>> > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:28 PM > > >>> > > > > To: cf-community > > >>> > > > > Subject: NATO Protests > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Hey Eric have you been downtown? > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > What are you seeing? > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Not hearing too much chatter, but the city did a lot to > prevent > > >>> > > > > real protest prior to the convention. > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/may/18/nato-su > > >>> > mmit-t > > >>> > > > > emplate-policing-other-chicago?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9038 > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:350940 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
