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On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > At Tiananmen Square, the tank *stopped* > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:41 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Shades of Tiananmen Square. >> >> I wish I had more than $300 in the bank. I shouldn't be sitting at home >> during this. >> >> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> > whoa >> > >> > >> > >> http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/22714270/highlight/264637#utm_campaign=unknown&utm_source=264637&utm_medium=social >> > >> > >> > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/therevolutionwillbestreamed#utm_campaign=t.co&utm_source=9917042&utm_medium=social >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > >> for those interested: >> > >> >> > >> http://twitpic.com/tag/NATO >> > >> >> > >> Legalese: Retweets imply interest not endorsement. I am not there and >> > >> don't know the parties well enough to evaluate their statements. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Eric Roberts < >> > >> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >>> The occupy movement as a whole has suffered from a virtual media >> > >>> blackout. >> > >>> You see it on local news, but national news has been largely silent. >> > Our >> > >>> media has failed us as well. They are supposed to be the ones that >> > call >> > >>> bullshit on politician when they make false claims. They are >> supposed >> > >>> to be >> > >>> making sure that people know what is going. Media is corporate >> > >>> controlled, >> > >>> so we see what corporate America wants us to see. That is fascism >> in >> > >>> all of >> > >>> it's dark and evil glory. I serious believe that revolution is the >> > only >> > >>> solution. I just don't see this peaceful protest accomplish much >> more >> > >>> than >> > >>> it already has. Entrench power is dug in and they are not giving >> it up >> > >>> without a fight. Voter apathy guarantees it. If you look at >> amendment >> > >>> 1, >> > >>> 20 % of the voting population made it a constitutional amendment. >> > >>> 20%...70% >> > >>> of the population couldn't be bothered to vote. That is why we are >> > >>> where we >> > >>> are at. We are not holding out elected officials feet to the fire. >> We >> > >>> need >> > >>> to be gathered with torches and pitchforks. They should be scared >> > >>> shitless >> > >>> of us. >> > >>> >> > >>> I have friends in Oakland that were there as well. They said the >> same >> > >>> thing >> > >>> Dana said. Every report I have heard was the same. Outright naked >> > >>> police >> > >>> brutality and the mayor didn't do squat about it. She needs to be >> > >>> dragged >> > >>> out into the street and tear gassed. Maybe then she will >> understand. >> > >>> >> > >>> -----Original Message----- >> > >>> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] >> > >>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:21 PM >> > >>> To: cf-community >> > >>> Subject: Re: NATO Protests >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> well, since there was no public outcry over Oakland there will >> probably >> > >>> be >> > >>> no public outcry over Chicago, much less any coverage. This is why >> it >> > was >> > >>> important to save YouTube. I spent a lot of time I could not really >> > >>> afford >> > >>> working on SOPA because we *need* citizen journalists now that the >> > >>> majority >> > >>> of the media outlets have been bought. >> > >>> The problem with YouTube of course is that it's completely >> unfiltered, >> > >>> but >> > >>> if 5-6 different livestreamers show the same set of events from >> > different >> > >>> angles then I htink it can be accepted as probably true. >> > >>> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:14 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I don't think you are ranting. Your message was short and >> concise. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I heard about the marine, and I can't believe that with the video >> of >> > >>> > that event no one has been punished. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I wish there were some way to get through to the people what is >> > going. >> > >>> > Why is there so much apathy about the decline of our country as >> the >> > >>> > bastion of liberty in the world? >> > >>> > >> > >>> > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > I am already there. In Oakland they surrounded protesters, >> ordered >> > >>> > > them >> > >>> > to >> > >>> > > disperse, and arrested them for not doing so. That's not >> counting >> > >>> > > the teargas, which -- I can't help it -- is all the more >> > >>> > > unforgivable because my daughter was there. >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > Let's not forget the veterans for peace marine who got hit in >> the >> > >>> > > head >> > >>> > with >> > >>> > > a tear gas canister at point-blank range. He was on multiple >> videos >> > >>> > seconds >> > >>> > > before not doing anything the least bit aggressive. Not even >> > >>> > > yelling. And so he's on the ground bleeding and people run up to >> > >>> > > lend some assistance >> > >>> > -- >> > >>> > > again, not threatening the cops in any way -- and they throw a >> > flash >> > >>> > bang. >> > >>> > > WTF. This is absolutely indisputable: >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKG0VntJW_A >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > He's in there, standing and and laying wounded, right next to >> the >> > >>> > > Navy >> > >>> > vet >> > >>> > > with the flag. No question what happened. And nobody has been >> > fired. >> > >>> > > The outside monitor said OPD used excessive force. But the only >> > >>> > > consequences have been to protesters. Some of those police >> officers >> > >>> are >> > >>> identifiable. >> > >>> > > But they have not been fired. >> > >>> > > Sorry, I know I am ranting. But I am really angry about this. >> And >> > >>> > > it's >> > >>> > only >> > >>> > > one story -- the mayors had a conference call one day and all >> of a >> > >>> > > sudden this sort of thing started happening nationwide. Gee. Am >> I >> > >>> > > supporting terrorism by saying so? Your guess is as good as >> mine. >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:47 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > I'm simply shocked at how under reported this fiasco is >> Chicago >> > >>> > > > has >> > >>> > been. >> > >>> > > > I feel it is a major indictment of our 4th estate. >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > The videos of the police shows absolutely and beyond reproach >> > that >> > >>> > > > the police are using intimidation to attempt to stifle 1st >> > >>> > > > amendment >> > >>> > rights. >> > >>> > > I >> > >>> > > > am disgusted by their behavior, and cops like that are one of >> the >> > >>> > > reasons I >> > >>> > > > have always had a fuck the police attitude. The >> militarization >> > of >> > >>> > > > our >> > >>> > > law >> > >>> > > > enforcement is also well documented in here, and something >> else I >> > >>> > > despise. >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > I will say that the NDAA connection is nebulous as they have >> been >> > >>> > charged >> > >>> > > > and given a bail amount, although excessive. I have read a >> bunch >> > >>> > > > about >> > >>> > > the >> > >>> > > > kids arrested and it seems that the police are fabricating >> > >>> > > > terrorism charges using home brew kits. Several of these kids >> > are >> > >>> > > > known >> > >>> > pacifists, >> > >>> > > > and they are reasonably well known within various protest >> > >>> > > > movements >> > >>> > from >> > >>> > > > around the country. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that >> they >> > >>> > > > were stopped and question/intimidated several days earlier. I >> > >>> > > > have grave >> > >>> > > doubts >> > >>> > > > about the reality contained in the charges brought against >> them. >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > It's also interesting to me that some of the outside police >> that >> > >>> > > > have >> > >>> > > been >> > >>> > > > brought in to back up the CPD are form Charlotte, N.C. where >> we >> > >>> > > > can >> > >>> > > assume >> > >>> > > > there will likely be similar protests at the DNC. >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > As you know, while understand the seemingly valid complaints >> that >> > >>> > > > many >> > >>> > of >> > >>> > > > the protestors have, I do not always agree with their proposed >> > >>> > solutions. >> > >>> > > > I do however totally and without reservation support their >> right >> > >>> > > > to >> > >>> > > gather, >> > >>> > > > to march and to speak out; all of these things being central >> to >> > >>> > > > the >> > >>> > > liberty >> > >>> > > > of our republic. >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > I become more disgusted by the actions of my government by the >> > >>> minute. >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Eric Roberts < >> > >>> > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > Unfortunately I can't get down there due to some medical >> issues >> > >>> > > > > I am >> > >>> > > > having >> > >>> > > > > *grrrrr grumble grumble* :-( I have been watching from >> afar >> > >>> > > > > and so >> > >>> > > far >> > >>> > > > > things have been peaceful. They arrested 3 people on >> trumped >> > up >> > >>> > > charges >> > >>> > > > > Thursday in an attempt to intimidate protestors. The big >> > >>> > > > > protest is tomorrow near McCormick Place. From what I am >> > >>> > > > > hearing, the police >> > >>> > are >> > >>> > > > out >> > >>> > > > > there big time in full riot gear (sucks to be them since it >> is >> > >>> > > > > also >> > >>> > 97 >> > >>> > > > > degrees today *snicker*) Some are jokily saying there are >> > more >> > >>> > police >> > >>> > > > > than >> > >>> > > > > protestors. They have a big protest today, Healthcare not >> > >>> > > > > Warfare at >> > >>> > > the >> > >>> > > > > Boeng HQ downtown. There was also a big rally (Tom Morello >> > >>> > > > > played at >> > >>> > > it) >> > >>> > > > > in >> > >>> > > > > Daley Plaza where there was a big rally of Nurses (they said >> > >>> > something >> > >>> > > > like >> > >>> > > > > 10,000+ nurses showed up...some from other states >> obviously). >> > I >> > >>> > > > > was watching that livestream....I can post feeds as soon as >> I >> > >>> > > > > can find >> > >>> > them >> > >>> > > > > again. >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > Info on the arrests: >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > This is from the national Lawyers Guild, who defend occupy >> > >>> > > protesters... >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > https://www.facebook.com/notes/occupy-chicago-press-relations/nlg-rele >> > >>> > ases-n >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > onato-raid-photos-threatens-legal-action-against-city-if-arrestees/355 >> > >>> > 360537 >> > >>> > > > > 860447 >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2012/05/19/three-chicago-nato-summit-activ >> > >>> > ists-c >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > harged-with-conspiracy-to-commit-terrorism-providing-material-support- >> > >>> > for-te >> > >>> > > > > rrorism/ >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > Earlier this week...the same guys were stopped by Chicago >> > Police >> > >>> > > > > and harassed and threatened: >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TudIyxxAboA >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > A good video released by Occupy Portland on this: >> > >>> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB10DF2Pbl8 >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > This ties in well with our NDAA discussion >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > http://betweenthelines.blogspot.com/2012/05/terrorism-charges-for-chic >> > >>> > ago-an >> > >>> > > > > ti-nato.html >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > The "Official" stories on the arrests: >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > http://www.suntimes.com/news/12635179-761/nato-3-had-targeted-obama-ca >> > >>> > mpaign >> > >>> > > > > -hq-rahms-house-police-stations-prosecutors-say.html >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/19/11765588-attacks-on-chica >> > >>> > go-pol >> > >>> > > > > ice-stations-obama-office-were-planned-prosecutors-say?lite >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > Pics from Friday and today via occupy Chicago: >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > http://occupywallst.org/article/today-chicago-health-care-not-warfare- >> > >>> > watch- >> > >>> > > > > live/ (this has a link to a livestream of events going on >> > around >> > >>> > > > > the city...the button is on the toolbar up top) >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > Pic of Tom Morello anf the Nurse's Rally: >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=369550743103518&set=a.36949691 >> > >>> > 644223 >> > >>> > > > > 4.87363.100001457865597&type=1&theater >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > Pic of Chicago Police from last night: >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2865440934987&set=a.1021509917 >> > >>> > 864.32 >> > >>> > > > > 38.1828697981&type=1&theater >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > >>> > > > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] >> > >>> > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:28 PM >> > >>> > > > > To: cf-community >> > >>> > > > > Subject: NATO Protests >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > Hey Eric have you been downtown? >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > What are you seeing? >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > Not hearing too much chatter, but the city did a lot to >> prevent >> > >>> > > > > real protest prior to the convention. >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/may/18/nato-su >> > >>> > mmit-t >> > >>> > > > > emplate-policing-other-chicago?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9038 >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >> > >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:350941 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
