OK I'm tell on you!

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Eric Roberts
<ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> I think that if we all agreed (yeah, I know...getting all of us to agree on
> something LOL) to charge our clients 1000/project, that might be considered
> price fixing, but if we had a discussion that determined that the going rate
> was 55/hr...that would be price fixing....it might be price fixing if we
> said that we would all charge 55/hr.
>
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> Eric Roberts
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Weeg [mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 7:35 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: CFML Rates
>
>
> it's against the law?
>
> --
> Tony Weeg
> Sent from my IPhone ... don't hate
>
>
> On Monday, October 1, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi! Hope you are well!!!
>>
>> We've never really discussed in detail, hourly rates here because it's
>> largely against the law ... this list is already watched by a few people
> we
>> never want to meet.
>>
>> In any case, read here about why you probably have not had many takers for
>> this discussion:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_fixing
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Dakota Burns
> <dakota.bu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Hi CF Community -
>> >
>> > Been awhile since I've chatted here with you great people.
>> >
>> > I recently saw multiple tweets come across the wire re: #coldfusion from
> a
>> > "rural" oriented company advertising $47/hr for full time telecommute
>> > coldfusion work. After a short conversation with their HR, it turns out
> the
>> > max they'll pay for "ColdFusion" is $30/hr 1099 because the work is
>> > "telecommute". Never mind the bait & switch act, the perceived benefits
>> > are "telecommute" on 1099 and possibly healthcare if you go W2, at which
>> > point they might want you to drop your rate to cover that. Those of us
> on
>> > 1099 pay full FICA, file taxes every quarter, buy our own equipment, pay
>> > our electric, office expenses, etc.. Does that "bait & switch" from
> medium
>> > level rate to low rate sound like a scam? Compare that scenario with
> Indian
>> > recruiters calling with 6 month assignments across the USA for between
> $50
>> > to $72 / hr.; corp to corp, which sucks if you have a family, but --
> have
>> > any of you ever taken those short term 6-month gigs from lesser known
>> > recruitment firms?
>> >
>> > CFML work, regardless of whether we're talking remote/telecommute or
>> > on-site, appears to still be a respectful language to build great Web
> apps
>> > and for experienced developers, should command the same pay-rate /
>> > client-billing as DotNet and PHP. I have clients that pay between $55 to
>> > $70 / hr (dropped $10 from my high end due to economy) -- and it's all
>> > remote work from home office. Get a W2 gig with great benefits, good
> group
>> > of people, innovative work environment and one may expect that 55 - 70
> rate
>> > to drop around 30%.
>> >
>> > Any of you all running into questionable companies that either don't
> know
>> > how to hire good talent or charge appropriately for their services --
>> > regardless of whether one's using CFML? It's entirely possible the
> $30/hr
>> > rate to consultant is compiled into client projects at $90/hr to client.
>> > Good for them, but likely they'll be taking a pass on high level talent.
>> >
>> > Dakota
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 

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