Awful, its legal robbery. I remember seeing an interesting comparison between the costs associated with a single payer system and the current system. (I'll have to try and dig it up again, this was during the original debate on the ACA). And the choice was essentially, perhaps a 5 to 8 % in taxes, and the $10,000 + current costs. Using our income as a rough guide, even a 10% increase in my taxes would be substantially cheaper than what we are now paying.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:00 PM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I feel for ya man. This is awful. > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> For us it is $14,000 (insurance plus deductible) for me alone. Wendy >> and Alexis (they had to go on a separate plan), added on another >> $8500. And its very easy for the insurance company to deny service. If >> one of us gets hospitalized, we'd be in serious trouble. >> >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:51 PM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Well yeah, i mean, it's better to have some help than none at all. But i >> > don't exactly have $4000 grand lying around...or worse....$12,000...which >> > is my new out of pocket maximum next year. >> > >> > I guess i should be thankful i had my back surgery this year....cost me >> > $800...instead of $4000+ >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com >> >wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> One visit to the emergency room can be well beyond the $4000. With >> >> office visits around $200 or so for a basic wellness exam, >> >> prescriptions etc. it should be obvious that without the insurance you >> >> can get bankrupted very quickly. With G's (and my) insurance, its not >> >> quite as fast. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:25 PM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > HA! >> >> > >> >> > Nice.....i guess i just have to laugh in spite of this whole >> >> > thing......*sigh* >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> " . . .with a $4000 deductible before insurance even kicks in, and >> even >> >> >> then they only pay 65%....why have insurance at all?" >> >> >> >> >> >> Because it's the law. >> >> >> >> >> >> J >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> >> >> >> >> 08-11-2009: I have not said that I was a single-payer supporter, >> >> because, >> >> >> frankly, we historically have had a employer-based system in this >> >> country, >> >> >> with private insurers, and for us to transition to a system like >> that, I >> >> >> believe would be too disruptive. >> >> >> >> >> >> 06-30-2003: A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care >> >> plan. >> >> >> That's what Id like to see. >> >> >> >> >> >> 03-24-2007: My commitment is to make sure that we've got universal >> >> >> healthcare for all Americans by the end of my first term as >> president. I >> >> >> would hope that we could set up a system that allows those who can't >> go >> >> >> through their employer to access a federal system or a state pool of >> >> some >> >> >> sort. But I don't think we're going to be able to eliminate employer >> >> >> coverage immediately. There's going to be potentially some transition >> >> >> process. I can envision a decade out, or 15 years out, or 20 years >> out. >> >> >> >> >> >> Barack Obama >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:358310 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
