The Fourteenth Amendment says nothing of marriage. It does however address discrimination. What you are looking for is a new definition of marriage. If gays were prevented form having equal rights, as they do since civil unions aren't equivalent to marriage, than there is a series miscarriage of justice. This, I'm sure, everyone agrees with. That would mean they are not bigots. The few that are against gays forming a civil union should be the only people addressed by Kennedy as being bigots. It really isn't any harder than that.
. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > > what part of > *Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our > very existence and survival.... To deny this fundamental freedom on so > unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these > statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of > equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all > the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth > Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by > invidious racial discrimination. Under our Constitution, the freedom to > marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual > and cannot be infringed by the State.* > > Don't you understand? > > Really Sam quit while you're behind in this case. > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > It does not. It's a persons opinion as applied to race. The right he > refers > > to is the long established traditional marriage between a man and a > woman. > > > > . > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > Virginia vs Loving, 1967 fully established marriage as a basic civil > > right. > > > try again. > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > So you do agree with the statement that if you don't support gay > > marriage > > > > you hate gays. That's just bizarre. Most of my gay friends don't > give a > > > > rats ass about gay marriage and they don't hate gays. Only the ones > > that > > > > hate hero-sexuals do. In my experience. > > > > > > > > Marriage isn't a constitutional right but somehow, now, gay marriage > > is? > > > > And the way they did that was to label all opposed as haters? A sad > day > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok then, I have a serious question (or series of questions): > > > > > > > > > > For what other reason, besides bigotry, would someone oppose gay > > > > marriage? > > > > > What possible argument could anyone have to oppose gay marriage > that > > > > would > > > > > not contain the sense that for some reason a "straight marriage" is > > > > > superior to a "gay marriage"? > > > > > > > > > > And if you believe gay marriage is inferior, or harmful, purely > > because > > > > of > > > > > the participants sexual orientation.....then how are you NOT being > > > > bigoted > > > > > against gays???? > > > > > > > > > > And as a side bar...why does someone who DOES support gay marriage > > > (you), > > > > > feel such an obligation to prop up those who oppose it??? You don't > > > need > > > > to > > > > > protect conservatives from me....if they aren't bigoted, I won't > > attack > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Calling someone a bigot because of lack of understand of the > facts > > is > > > > > never > > > > > > funny. It's promoting hate to paint someone with a legitimate > legal > > > > > > position as a hater. The only way that can be even a little funny > > is > > > > if > > > > > > you truly believed he hates gays. > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:21 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Luckily I don't have that attitude, so you have misread me > (once > > > > > again). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was just asking a question. Satire always takes a person's > > views, > > > > > good > > > > > > or > > > > > > > bad, and exaggerates them. YOu call it hate because it's making > > fun > > > > of > > > > > a > > > > > > > position you agree with. I call it sort-of funny...but not all > > that > > > > > > > original. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Sam <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Really? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you must also believe that Scalia and everyone else that > > > didn't > > > > > > agree > > > > > > > > with this legal decision hates gays. You really need to get > > past > > > > the > > > > > > > "agree > > > > > > > > with me or you're a bigot" attitude. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just saying > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:50 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what's hateful about it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Sam <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignorant hate disguised as humor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Cameron Childress < > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/03/bitter-scalia-leaves-us.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:365018 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
