Yet if you come up hot on the piss test at the VA...you get entered into all sorts of programs for drug abuse. That is the reality of the situation. Just like you can lose your job if you come up hot in a drug test...no court required.
-----Original Message----- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 5:13 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a platform... I don't have a job, as you've loved to point out. I'm dealing with the government, and they do not have the power to share my medical information or use it against me. This isn't a private interaction, it's not even a voluntary interaction. The federal crime comes with distribution and certain amounts of weight. There is no federal crime fore small scale personal possession unless you are on federal property, and that would still require a conviction in a court of law. That is how they get the MMJ clubs and shops, distribution. Most drug laws are like that, based on amount and value. Use is not illegal. Small possession of some substances are illegal, and yes even minor possession of pot is a criminal act in many states still. It is not in Ohio. I do not distribute or buy large amounts. I don't cross state lines. These are all the facts in the case and seem to be totally missing the nature of the violations of anyone's individual rights. Even if they think I'm actually dangerous to myself and others the constitution requires in several places that they prove that in a court of law. Primarily the "Judicial Due Process" is laid out in the 4th-8th amendments, and incorporated and expanded upon in the 14th. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > If you test positive...you can be fired from your job...lose your CDL > license...all sorts of shit without a trial. Don't be naive Tim... > > Yes...there are federal laws against it. It is what they are using to > bust people even though it is legal in the state. They have been > doing that with medical MJ since the first states approved it. > Violations of federal, state and local drug laws are all criminal > actions...not civil actions. You are sadly (and unfortunately) > mistaken. If these were not criminal violations, then why do we have > so many people in jail for minor drug offenses? > Admitting to illegal drug use in the VA will get you into a lot of trouble. > I get tested regularly because I take Vicodin for chronic pain. Ever > since then, they test me at least 4-5 times a year for other illegal substances. > And the VA, since they are a federal agency, goes by what the fed > says is illegal...not the states. I wish it were different. > > Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 4:56 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform > as a platform... > > > There doesn't need to be a conviction? > > Are you serious? > > Do you know what hearsay is? > > Due process? > > Innocent until proven guilty? > > This isn't just about guns. > > Until 2010 there wasn't even an appeals process. Until last year I > was no longer permitted to purchase real property. > > I'm 100% honest about smoking pot. > > There is no federal law against minor possessions, there is no local > criminal law against it. It is an infraction, a civil matter, not a > criminal one. Read that again, and then go google it. > > I'm not sure even what else I can say. > > So you're of the opinion that I deserve to have my rights trampled > because I smoke pot. > On Jun 2, 2014 2:47 PM, "Eric Roberts" > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> > wrote: > > > > > You either admitted to smoking pot or you tested positive...i am > > guessing you tested positive. There doesn't need to be a conviction. > > You broke the law by smoking pot. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 11:54 AM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform > > as a platform... > > > > > > I have a field manager. He is a gs-13 named Kris Wolf. He decides > > whether I have to stay in the unemployability and fiduciary programs. > > I've asked to be removed for two years now. Certified letters, > > followed the appeals process. > > > > I've had the atf and fbi in my home on multiple occasions. I have > > an official POC with the local fusion center, Det. Dickinson. I > > have been told these things on many occasions and if you read the > > .mil > > (government) site, the individual comments will show you that it is > > the manner in which it is handled. > > > > It is the specific combination of programs, neither of which I > > requested, and that I am not being permitted to leave, that causes > > the unique problems I run into. > > > > There are only 200,000 vets in the fiduciary program, less than that > > in both of them. > > > > You said I broke the law, but I haven't been convicted if anything. > > > > When I start these conversations, even with veterans, I get the same > > exact responses. > > > > First they insist I must be a felon if I lost my guns, then it's all > > a > lie. > > After that it's you're a druggie or you're so crazy you need to be > > treated like this. All of my rights outlined in the bill of rights > > gave been violated but the third. Second fourth and fifth and > > fourteenth amendment villains are clear. My property was violated > > and > stolen without a warrant. > > > > Some of the laws in this sphere directly contradict each other. > > > > People on this list helped me when there were literally federal > > agents and local police trying to intimidate me into taking down my blog. > > > > My previous field manager was fired after an OIG investigation found > > she was abusing her power, not just with me but with multiple > > veterans. > > > > Eric. I wrote some scathing shit to you in regards to the fraud and > > free handout bull shit. > > > > A few people reading this have pdf copies of all the documentation > > the VA has sent me. > > > > I've talked to senators and congressmen. > > > > I'm not a liar, or a fake. > > > > I had dual complimentary careers before a war stripped me of that. > > > > If you want to throw down dd-214s and see who earned what I'm down. > > > > After that we can compare tax records and see who paid for what. > > > > Dude, you think I'm gonna work this hard for 36k a year? > > > > Gfy man > > > > I keep writing mean shit here so I'm gonna close... > > > > But I'm getting free hand outs. > > On Jun 2, 2014 12:25 PM, "Eric Roberts" > > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > If you get a job, you will be dropped because you no longer > > > qualify...From everything you posted, that is what I took from it. > > > I didn't see anything that said you will be charged with a crime > > > for working...unless of course you do not notify them that you are > > > working. Nothing at stated that you cannot work and are forced to > > > not work. It only says that to qualify for this you must not be > > > able to work due to your disability. If you are able to work and > > > remain on this, > > then I would say you are being fraudulent. > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 10:27 AM > > > To: cf-community > > > Subject: RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare > > > reform as a platform... > > > > > > > > > I have asked multiple times to be removed from these programs. > > > On Jun 2, 2014 9:39 AM, "Eric Roberts" > > > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > No...this is the same person that whines about people collecting > > > > welfare and he whines that if he works...which is saying that he > > > > can, he loses his benefits. So if he can work and is capable of > > > > working, then he should and not just collect his 100% > > > > non-service connected disability. So feel free to go fuck yourself Mo... > > > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 9:51 PM > > > > To: cf-community > > > > Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare > > > > reform as a platform... > > > > > > > > > > > > You sir, are a clueless ass, whose has no idea what you are > > > > talking > > > about. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Eric Roberts > > > > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > So in order to keep your free handouts...you must not be able > > > > > to > > > > work...let' > > > > > be honest Tim...if you are able to work, then you are scamming > > > > > the government. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:370683 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
