I don't! I have a wife, a grown daughter, who had my first granddaughter a year ago I love and care for and would protect them all. I treat them with respect they do likewise. There's no problem.
Why do you insist on holding women less-accountable for their actions than men? On 9/10/2014 9:37 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > Why do have such hostility and apparent hatred towards women, Rick? > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Rick Faircloth <r...@whitestonemedia.com> > wrote: > >> Wrong, Eric! >> >> Ray is responsible for his actions. HOWEVER, the woman is responsible >> for hers! >> >> I'm just trying to get you to see the double-standard we have in this >> society. >> Woman want equality, but don't want the responsibility that comes with it! >> >> If woman want equality, then the law has be to blind to gender. The >> exception >> being in cases where gender plays a crucial factor such as in rape. >> Woman can't hide behind >> their gender when it's convenient and then play the gender card when >> they lose! >> >> Or, in this case, society should stop playing the gender card for them! >> >> >> On 9/10/2014 9:25 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: >>> This 'what if' game is stupid. I did not 'attack' Ray Rice. A man did not >>> 'attack' Ray Rice. No one 'attacked' Ray Rice. >>> >>> Let's play the reality game. He punched his fiance in the face and, >>> subsequently, she was knocked unconscious and you are trying to justify >> his >>> actions because you think she deserved it. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Rick Faircloth < >> r...@whitestonemedia.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Scott, if you attacked Ray, and Ray knocked you out. Is Ray solely to >>>> blame for you >>>> being knocked out? Or would you say that your bear some responsibility >> for >>>> provoking Ray? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/10/2014 8:11 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: >>>>> You don't see that by saying '...if his soon-to-be wife hadn't >> assaulted >>>>> him, he never would have struck back.' You are essentially saying, 'she >>>>> deserved it' or 'she was asking for it'? Maybe if she stayed in the >>>> kitchen >>>>> making him sandwiches, non of this would have happened, right Rick? >>>>> >>>>> Typical, misogynistic bullshit. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Rick Faircloth < >>>> r...@whitestonemedia.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You're absolute right, Scott. Actions have consequences. EVERYONE'S >>>>>> action have consequences. >>>>>> Even a woman's actions can have consequences. Typical "women are never >>>>>> at fault for >>>>>> anything and men are the cause of all trouble in the world" feminism. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll bet that if his soon-to-be wife hadn't assaulted him, he never >>>>>> would have struck back. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's a safe bet that I'll take. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/10/2014 12:03 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: >>>>>>> I would say that he caused the problem the moment he decided that >>>>>> punching >>>>>>> his soon-to-be wife in the face was the best way to respond to the >>>>>>> situation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is no one else to blame but him. He threw the punch - no one >>>> else. >>>>>>> Actions have consequences, it is about time some of these >> professional >>>>>>> athletes realize that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Vivec <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Scott, let's say your omniscience is wrong. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And a month or two, or more from now it comes out that they were a >>>>>> couple >>>>>>>> that had problems, >>>>>>>> but there was no ongoing domestic abuse. They were working things >> out, >>>>>> and >>>>>>>> then this came along and ruined everything for them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What would you say then? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9 September 2014 22:13, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The media did not destroy a family... Ray Rice did, the moment he >>>>>> decided >>>>>>>>> the best course of action to resolve the situation was to punch his >>>>>>>>> soon-to-be wife in the face. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I mentioned on Facebook, she is practically a textbook case of >>>> someone >>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>> is abused. Letting them 'sort out their problems' may result in her >>>>>> death >>>>>>>>> (or his if she decides she is tired of being abused). The biggest >> red >>>>>>>> flag >>>>>>>>> is that she has blamed every one, including herself, except for the >>>>>>>> person >>>>>>>>> who the the punch. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do yourself a favor and go on Twitter and search for #WhyIStayed to >>>>>> get a >>>>>>>>> glimpse of what some victims of abuse go through and what their >> state >>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> mind is/was. >>>>>>>>> On Sep 9, 2014 9:32 PM, "Vivec" <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I know what you meant. >>>>>>>>>> But the comparison .... you can't make a comparison like that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And I don't see anything wrong with my view that >>>>>>>>>> A) his actions were disproportionate >>>>>>>>>> B) It was an altercation between two adults >>>>>>>>>> C) they were both to blame for what happened. >>>>>>>>>> D) The "intervention" of the media did nothing to help the couple >> or >>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>> situation >>>>>>>>>> E) Since February there has not been any other reports of domestic >>>>>>>>> violence >>>>>>>>>> at all. >>>>>>>>>> F) There is just not enough evidence at all to say that in that >>>>>>>> couple's >>>>>>>>>> relationship there was a history of violence on either side. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They were in a Casino, she was stumbling to the elevator, they >> were >>>>>>>>>> probably both very drunk. >>>>>>>>>> This isn't an excuse for either of them, but the entire situation >>>>>> needs >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> be viewed objectively. >>>>>>>>>> Remove the "knockout" , what are you left with? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If she's fine, she didn't seek help, they got married...nothing >>>>>>>> happened >>>>>>>>>> from February to now... >>>>>>>>>> leave the people alone let them sort out their problems and live >>>> their >>>>>>>>>> life. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> She is not a little child that needs the world and adults that >> know >>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>> to look after her. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What the media has done is effectively destroyed a family. They >>>>>> haven't >>>>>>>>>> helped her, and they haven't helped him. >>>>>>>>>> They have destroyed a family. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey, you know what? Maybe in a month more information will come >> out >>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>> will find out that it was a horrible abusive relationship. >>>>>>>>>> Some cousin or uncle or friend will come out and say , yeah, he >> was >>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>> hitting her. Or she was always cussing and hitting him. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But as of right now? That's not the case. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9 September 2014 21:11, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am not, and I feel safe in assuming you know that - maybe I am >>>>>>>> giving >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>> to much credit. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to see if disproportionate response is something Rick >>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>> ever consider. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To be honest, I had very little respect for Rick before this >> whole >>>>>>>>> thread >>>>>>>>>>> started, and his response do not really surprise me. But, Gel, I >> am >>>>>>>>>>> flabbergasted by some of your comments - both here and on >> Facebook. >>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> does not jive with the impression I have gotten over the years - >>>>>>>>>>> apparently, I am not the only one. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I will say this one more time. There is NOTHING she did to >> deserve >>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>>>> punched in the face and knocked unconscious. His life was never >> in >>>>>>>>>> danger. >>>>>>>>>>> His response was way over the top. Can we please stop painting >> him >>>> as >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> victim? >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 9, 2014 9:00 PM, "Vivec" <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You are comparing an adult woman to a 12 year old child? >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think women are like little kids unable to take >>>>>>>> responsibility >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> their actions, and know right from wrong? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dropping the charges doesn't mean that she didn't do anything, >>>>>>>>>>>> it means that the lawyers decided it wasn't worth it to >> prosecute, >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>> had a stronger case against him. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 September 2014 20:47, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Both initially were charged with assault. Her charges were >> later >>>>>>>>>>> dropped. >>>>>>>>>>>>> He was then charged with aggravated assault. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder, if this was a 12 year old child who he hit, would you >>>>>>>>> guys >>>>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>>>> they were also 'looking for trouble'? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372353 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
