"before the grace of God we sign this treaty of peace" > LOL, c'mon now Michael......how many times has the phrase 'Well, if we > go to war God's going to be pissed' been used. > > I'll agree about the amount of wars not declining, but no matter what > side you're on, 'God is on our side' can be heard from everyone. > > > > Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > >Riiiiiight. How many wars are over food, water, ideals, etc. God has nothing > >to do with them and if there was no God the wars would be fought just as > >hard and there would be just as many. More actually as people would not say > >"Well, if we go to war God's going to be pissed". > > > > > > > > > >>Maybe for someone who actually believes in the religions mentioned, > >>there would be no purpose without them. The rest of us will be thrilled > >>to have many wars end as people won't be able to fight over whose god is > >>right. > >> > >>Matt Liotta > >>President & CEO > >>Montara Software, Inc. > >>http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > >>888-408-0900 x901 > >> > >> > >> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>>Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:47 PM > >>>To: CF-Community > >>>Subject: Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel > >>> > >>>It means that everything from the existence of the Jews (with all the > >>>biological evidence of our connectedness) to Christianity to Islam > >>> > >>> > >>itself > >> > >> > >>>to > >>>the constitution of most governments have no basis at all. It means > >>> > >>> > >>that > >> > >> > >>>everything that we've built up in civilization is based on delusions > >>> > >>> > >>and > >> > >> > >>>that we have no purpose in existence other than to eat and die. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Hey ...ya know..umm.. > >>>> > >>>>What if the Bible was just a fairy tale? Sort of a really really old > >>>>equivalent of Lord Of The Rings? > >>>> > >>>>What would that mean for the current conflict....Hypothetically > >>>>speaking? > >>>> > >>>>-Gel > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>>> > >>>>Good question. Unfortunately, the only thing that Muslims can go on > >>>> > >>>> > >>as > >> > >> > >>>>the word of God today is the Koran and it has a number of passages > >>>> > >>>> > >>where > >> > >> > >>>>1. Israel was given to the Jews 2. Suicide is wrong 3. Killing > >>>> > >>>> > >>yourself, > >> > >> > >>>>even if killing one you consider an enemy is wrong 4. Killing women > >>>> > >>>> > >>and > >> > >> > >>>>children is wrong 5. Killing those who do not fight (non-combatants > >>>> > >>>> > >>like > >> > >> > >>>>the family that was just gunned down) is wrong So according to the > >>>> > >>>> > >>word > >> > >> > >>>>of God as they see it, they are in the wrong. As for the Torah, it > >>>> > >>>> > >>says > >> > >> > >>>>to drive out the Canaanites and take possession of the land. No > >>>>Canaanites anymore so there's no driving out of anyone. Even when > >>>> > >>>> > >>the > >> > >> > >>>>modern state of Israel was founded there was no push to drive the > >>>> > >>>> > >>Arabs > >> > >> > >>>>out. That came (to a degree) after constant attacks and wars. BTW, > >>>>Abraham owned huge chunks of the land before the exodus including > >>>> > >>>> > >>one > >> > >> > >>>>specific transaction where he bought what is now Hebron. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
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