Riiiiiight. How many wars are over food, water, ideals, etc. God has nothing
to do with them and if there was no God the wars would be fought just as
hard and there would be just as many. More actually as people would not say
"Well, if we go to war God's going to be pissed".


> Maybe for someone who actually believes in the religions mentioned,
> there would be no purpose without them. The rest of us will be thrilled
> to have many wars end as people won't be able to fight over whose god is
> right.
>
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:47 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel
> >
> > It means that everything from the existence of the Jews (with all the
> > biological evidence of our connectedness) to Christianity to Islam
> itself
> > to
> > the constitution of most governments have no basis at all. It means
> that
> > everything that we've built up in civilization is based on delusions
> and
> > that we have no purpose in existence other than to eat and die.
> >
> >
> > > Hey ...ya know..umm..
> > >
> > > What if the Bible was just a fairy tale? Sort of a really really old
> > > equivalent of Lord Of The Rings?
> > >
> > > What would that mean for the current conflict....Hypothetically
> > > speaking?
> > >
> > > -Gel
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >
> > > Good question. Unfortunately, the only thing that Muslims can go on
> as
> > > the word of God today is the Koran and it has a number of passages
> where
> > > 1. Israel was given to the Jews 2. Suicide is wrong 3. Killing
> yourself,
> > > even if killing one you consider an enemy is wrong 4. Killing women
> and
> > > children is wrong 5. Killing those who do not fight (non-combatants
> like
> > > the family that was just gunned down) is wrong So according to the
> word
> > > of God as they see it, they are in the wrong. As for the Torah, it
> says
> > > to drive out the Canaanites and take possession of the land. No
> > > Canaanites anymore so there's no driving out of anyone. Even when
> the
> > > modern state of Israel was founded there was no push to drive the
> Arabs
> > > out. That came (to a degree) after constant attacks and wars. BTW,
> > > Abraham owned huge chunks of the land before the exodus including
> one
> > > specific transaction where he bought what is now Hebron.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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