They're whiny because they're not selling web servers for $50k anymore. I'd
be whiny and in court too, it's just fun to make fun of them for it :)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:29 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: whaaaaaa
> 
> 
> sun is a bunch of whining babies ;) though lol
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cfhelp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:25 PM
> Subject: RE: whaaaaaa
> 
> 
> > What!? I am confused...
> >
> > I must have missed the memo SUN Bad Microsoft Good?
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:57 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: whaaaaaa
> >
> > No, a few years ago Sun was wanting Windows to either ship 
> with Sun's JVM
> or
> > take the JVM out all together. MS called their bluff and 
> decided to take
> the
> > JVM out all together. Sun wet their pants and started suing 
> some more to
> get
> > it back.
> >
> > I don't like Sun. I would feel better about java if it 
> weren't for them
> > having control of it. Better watch out, if developers start 
> dropping Java,
> > Sun might feel obliged to sue, forcing them into using it again. It
> wouldn't
> > be far off from what they're currently trying to pull :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:50 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: whaaaaaa
> > >
> > >
> > > Isn't it that they have to include sun's jre? And not 
> their own hacked
> > > and partly incompatible jre, I thought the whole crux of the
> > > problem was
> > > that ms had been messing about with java and sun weren't happy.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 16 January 2003 18:54
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: whaaaaaa
> > >
> > > While I agree with Sun's winning the 20 million dollar 
> lawsuit a while
> > > back, I think this is just stupid. They shouldn't be 
> forced to include
> > > Java, and there should be a time limit involved if they are.
> > >
> > > I may be reading the situation wrong, but it's seems kind 
> of like a
> > > double jeopardy situation. Sun already won a seperate 
> lawsuit against
> > > Microsoft, and now Microsoft is being penalized for the 
> same thing in
> > > as part of the antitrust case. In the previous case, 
> Microsoft is not
> > > allowed to distribute Java after 2008 (maybe earlier?) 
> iirc, without
> > > renegotiating a new licensing agreement with Sun. Now the court is
> > > saying that Microsoft has to include Java.
> > >
> > > This is setting up a sweet little niche for Sun, one that 
> they don't
> > > deserve imo. At least under Windows it is faster, and easier to
> > > program an application using .Net than Java.
> > >
> > > --
> > >  jon
> > >  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Thursday, January 16, 2003, 1:16:51 PM, you wrote:
> > > CA> whaaaaa... I'm Sun Microsystems.
> > >
> > > CA> whaaaa..... don't put that software in your operating system.
> > >
> > > CA> whaaa... I think I'll sue you for putting that in there.
> > >
> > > CA> whaaa.... why did you take that software out of your operating
> > > system.
> > >
> > > CA> whaaaa.... now we're screwed.
> > >
> > > CA> whaaaa... I think I'll sue you for not putting it in your
> > > operating
> > > system.
> > >
> > > CA> whaaaa.... we won.
> > >
> > >
> > > CA> whaaaaa... we're pathetic.
> > >
> > > CA> whaaa.... where's my ba ba. whaaaa.
> > >
> > > CA>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 
> 
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