I would have to agree that "babysitting" should not be a responsibility of the
library employees.  The basic problem, I believe, is society-wide, in that
parents do not want the responsibility of raising their own kids, instead they
want a societal environment created just for them, no matter what it may take
away from adults.
I would be  a strong advocate of not letting a kid anywhere near a library
computer unless accompanied by a parent and hold the parent responsible if
"inappropriate content" is accessed and displayed.

But gee, I have not been to the Main L:library, since I was in high school and
was on a field trip to see the Circus Exhibit.  We are talking early 50's here
:-)  I live within the city limits, (two blocks from Loop 1604) but absolutely
abhor ever having to make a trip (for any reason) downtown, a distance of 19
miles.  I watch the river parades on TV!  I recently attended a funeral at
Sunset Memorial Park on Austin Hwy (40 miles) and another at the Fort Sam
Houston National Cemetery (44 miles) and that was trip enough.  I can drive to
Medina Lake in less time that it takes to drive downtown! :-)

Playing the "for the children" card is a popular emotion when addressing most
any social issue that may come up.  Parental responsibility, is never addressed.
On the other hand, it is quite possible that the computer-savvy kids, know far
more about these "inappropriate" things than do the ignoramus or inattentive
parents.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: Porn in the Library


| I suspect that's the policy in your local library not the system. When we
| went to the library all three of us used to sign up. And at the main San
| Antonio branch the children's computers are on a different floor. From what
| I gather from talking to the librarians there, the supervision issue is
| more a matter of they don't want to have to "babysit", or have to find the
| parent if the kid *is* lookng at somethg inappropriate. They got to kow
| that my kids did not present issues in either respect and supervision was
| not an issue.
|
| Dana
|
| > > -----Original Message-----
| > > From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:12 AM
| > > To: CF-Community
| > > Subject: Re: Porn in the Library
| > >
| > >
| > > Living is a fairly large city where the Library
| > > Administrators had refused to install filtering, with the
| > > reasoning that no child should be allowed to use Library
| > > computers on the internet without parental supervision. They
| > > have had a policy in effect for years now, refusing
| > > unsupervised use of the internet by minors, requiring them to
| > > be accompanied by and under the direct supervision of a parent.
| > >
| > > Another reason was that less than 10% of the use of library
| > > computers was by minors, and the remainder by adult users,
| > > who do not require filtering.
| > >
| > > I suppose this ruling will mandate that they install the
| > > filtering, even though they do not work as expected.  Porn
| > > Site operators are very busy detecting and circumventing any
| > > filtering system in existence.  You can tell this just by the
| > > spam you receive.
| > >
| > > This also does nothing about the access from home, or the
| > > porn sites actually owned and operated by minors.
| > >
| > > ----- Original Message ----- 
| > > From: "Harkins,Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:59 AM
| > > Subject: RE: Porn in the Library
| > >
| > >
| > > | I'm in favor of the porn filters in the library as well. If
| > > people are
| > > | going to that then they are wasting the bandwidth. -Patrick
| > > |
| > > | >-----Original Message-----
| > > | >From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > > | >Subject: Re: Porn in the Library
| > > | >
| > > | >
| > > | >nobody commented on this. Too many other topics, or does
| > > nobody else
| > > | >find this slightly troubling?
| > > | >
| > > | >Dana
| > > | >
| > > |
| > > |
| > >
| >
| 
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