while i don't intend to speak for tim, of course that's why we do it. it's much easier to tell the american people that the government gives out these large lump sums of money in the spirit of goodwill. ha. anybody who's ever earned a significant amount of money will generally see through that facade easily. why the hell shouldn't we expect something in return?
the war on iraq was staged for a multitude of different reasons. i think removing the nutbag was actually a top priority, however we can't be foolish enough to deny that oil was also a driving means. while i don't like the public reasons given, i can't disagree with their real motives. also, i'm sure if you'd ask the average iraqi citizen if they'd rather be rid of their nutbag genocidal leader, or lose some of their oil exports.. internation goodwill is just a nice way of saying 'you're in trouble and have something we may want in the future. if you want assitance, fine. we'll be cashing in your iou someday'. a person who runs a business does the same thing on a regular basis. --d. -----Original Message----- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:27 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries Ahhh.. So therefore you are admitting that the United States only offers assistance to countries in order to force them to the will of the US at a later date. Cool. I hope you remember that point in future discussions. And the war on Iraq was for what? 'Liberation of the Iraqi people'? So....I suppose the US will soon 'Call in the debt'....after all... isn't it fair to expect a return on their investment? -Gel -----Original Message----- From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that threat implies violence. When you are receiving hand outs you have to be prepared to bend to your supporters will. This is true at all levels. This is why only trade, based on an equal exchange of valued items (this is true even in relationships, where the item to be exchanged can be as simple as time spent together). When one is supporting the other eventually the supporter will call due the debit. I don't consider this a threat. I consider it justice. If you want our money you have do to something for us. If you would rather follow your own will you can be without our money. It's a decision on your part. How is what we are doing in this instance wrong. morally or legally? Should we not expect some return on our investment? Tim ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
