hold on there...The design of the Wright brother's aeroplane may have been
patented but is it also copyrighted? Or are just the plans themselves (the
physical representation of the plans)? In the copyright case, would use of
that explicit design be technically forbidden without permission? OR just
use/re-publishing of the plans?

Innovation has always been looked upon favorably by the patent office (in
the case of designs), so I don't exactly get the connection there.
Improvements to existing inventions can be seperately patented without
violation of the original patent, no? So better wings added to the fuselage,
tail rudder, put the tail on the back of the plane, would be innovations to
an existing patent...innovative and deriviative but not necessarily
stealing? Question of degree I guess...

> What good does it do American Citizens if a stagnant corporation that
> no longer knows how to innovate is able to continue existing and
> standing in the way of real innovators? It's corporate welfare...and
> anti-capitalist.

Who determines that they are "stagnant"? If I go to your web site and steal
original artwork, or plagarize your book and use it as my own, should I be
prosecuted? I say yes, and to the fullest extent of the law.

Oh, and FWIW, if these people are so damned innovative, how come they have
to take other people's work? How come they are spending so much time worried
about what they can steal from other creative folks? Or how long after one
dies they can capitalize on one's work?

Copyrighted is copyrighted, you shouldn't be able to steal my work just
'cause you feel like it. I have a right to profit from what I created don't
I? And I don't have to share if I don't want to...

:-P

will


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jon hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: all slashbots are idiots.


> Monday, July 7, 2003, 4:26:58 PM, you wrote:
> NM> Well, how about because they created them.
>
> Should the Wright Brothers descendants be living off licensing fees for
> airplanes?
>
> NM>  Should I be profiting off of them  instead?
>
> Yes.
>
> What good does it do American Citizens if a stagnant corporation that
> no longer knows how to innovate is able to continue existing and
> standing in the way of real innovators? It's corporate welfare...and
> anti-capitalist.
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:05 PM
> >> To: CF-Community
> >> Subject: Re: all slashbots are idiots.
> >>
> >> Casablanca
> >> Gone With The Wind
> >>
> >> Just to name two off the top of my head. Why should TimeWarner still
> >> be profiting off of these? They are part of our culture now, and
> >> artists should be allowed to make derivative works without fear of
> >> lawsuits.
> >>
> >> --
> >>  jon
> >>  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
>
> 
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