No, shades of grey are dithered. :-)
-- Ben Doom
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Moonbow Software, Inc
: -----Original Message-----
: From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:30 PM
: To: CF-Community
: Subject: RE: Re: RE: What would you do if you won PowerBall?
:
:
: Ha! ... I guess every shade of gray must be black or white
: then. :) And all questions must be answered the moment they
: are asked. And all decisions must be made in some permanent
: fashion the moment the an option is realized... I just can't
: work that way.
:
: > I'm an objectivist. Absolutes are all I have :)
:
: > Tim
:
: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:39 PM
: > To: CF-Community
: > Subject: RE: Re: RE: What would you do if you won
: > PowerBall?
:
:
: >> So basically your saying there were no famines or wars of
: >> aggression and conquest throughout history?
:
: > How in THE WORLD did you conclude that?!
:
: > Are we even having the same conversation? Can you offer me
: > a
: > road map?
:
: >> Dewd, seriously this is some slanted thinking. Agrarian
: >> societies were feudal or some other totalitarian system.
: >> This idea of community that your preaching doesn't work
: >> in the real world.
:
: > Each individual has to make all decisions regarding change
: > for themselves. That being said, as an individual it is
: > possible to change your lifestyle. Sometimes those changes
: > are things that have minimal impact on you as an
: > individual,
: > such as chosing to use cloth kitchen towels instead of
: > paper
: > towels. Other times they hare significant impact on you,
: > like chosing not to drive or own a car. It's possible to
: > make large changes (like not driving) and still maintain
: > other elements of your lifestyle, for instance, when you
: > stop driving, you don't necessarily have to change your
: > diet. It's a non-sequitur to assume that because the
: > larger
: > agrarian societies we have knowledge of in our history
: > were
: > fuedal or totalitarian means that all agrarian societies
: > ever have been or ever will be fuedal or totalitarian or
: > _more_importantly_ that they are by necessity more cruel
: > to
: > the people in them than a capitalist society. Just as it
: > would be a non-sequitur to assume that because someone
: > choses to give up cars as a part of their lifestyle that
: > they must change their diet (because they can't manageably
: > carry the food they like home on the buss for instance).
:
: > There are also many current-day examples of agrarian
: > communities that work quite well:
:
: > http://www.ic.org
:
: > Lastly, why do you assume that when I speak I'm speaking
: > with a "voice" of absolutes?
:
: > Isaac
:
: >> Timothy Heald
: >> Information Systems Specialist
: >> Overseas Security Advisory Council
: >> U.S. Department of State
: >> 571.345.2235
:
:
: >> -----Original Message-----
: >> From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: >> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:10 PM
: >> To: CF-Community
: >> Subject: RE: Re: RE: What would you do if you won
: >> PowerBall?
:
:
: >> I suppose ultimately that I don't understand why people
: >> can't grow their own
: >> food -- or just live tribally, you know, hunter/gatherer
: >> -- with the
: >> possible exception of being on a small island where every
: >> square meter of
: >> land belongs to someone who's unwilling to share in which
: >> case my answer is
: >> to ration the land and/or provide those without any
: >> transportation to
: >> someplace else...
:
: >> I don't think personally that I'd like to go back to an
: >> entirely
: >> pre-agricultural state, because I suspect it's a lot
: >> easier to get by and
: >> have food if you grow it intentionally, but, the fact
: >> that
: >> we're still here
: >> at all is absolute proof that it can be done if
: >> necessary.
: >> In some ways
: >> growing your own food is even better than having it grown
: >> by large corporate
: >> agro-businesses and shipped hundreds or thousands of
: >> miles
: >> to the grocery in
: >> big diesel trucks. Personally I'd really like to go back
: >> to living
: >> communally and growing our own food at least for myself,
: >> although I don't
: >> expect everyone to do that. I certainly think that would
: >> be a step up from a
: >> sweat shop.
:
: >> Isaac
:
: >> Original Message -----------------------
: >> If the alternative is starvation most people are willing
: >> to work. Be nice
: >> if children didnt have to face that choice.
:
: >> William Wheatley writes:
:
: >>> Play devils advocate what about the kids who have to
: >>> have
: >>> a job and money
: >> in
: >>> order to survive for whatever reason?
: >>>
: >>> I was listening to a piece on npr where a kid was saying
: >>> (via translator)
: >>> how he needed to work. When the inspector (or whatever
: >>> the proper title
: >> is)
: >>> tried to shut the place down he fired the underage kid
: >>> who was then
: >> screwed
: >>> since they didn't have the money to pay for food and
: >>> such. They also
: >> talked
: >>> about child labor unions so the kids could make good $$.
: >>> If there is
: >> nothing
: >>> else for a child to do and they have to work why should
: >>> we hold the
: >>> children, who WILLINGLY want to work , back and limit
: >>> them. There is no
: >>> social security in those countries no foster care what
: >>> would become of
: >> them
: >>> if they were unable to work and provide for themselves.
: >>>
: >>> ----- Original Message -----
: >>> From: "s. isaac dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >>> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:31 PM
: >>> Subject: RE: RE: What would you do if you won PowerBall?
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> > How about buying the Gap (or some other large US-grown
: >>> > corp) and forcing
: >>> them to stop actively contributing to sweat shops in
: >>> third world
: >> countries?
: >>> >
: >>> > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q
: >>> > =
: >>> > area+code+map
: >>> >
: >>> >
: >>>
: >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/audiovideo/programmes/panorama
: >> /
: >> archive/970385.stm
: >>> >
: >>> > Isaac
: >>> >
: >>> > Original Message -----------------------
: >>> > OK then I started this so here is mine.
: >>> >
: >>> > In no particular order (most likely all at once)
: >>> >
: >>> > - I would open an account for my grandmother to do
: >>> > with
: >>> > what she wants
: >> as
: >>> > she has supported me (bailed me out) for most of my
: >>> > life.
: >>> > - Buy a house on an island and retire with my friends
: >>> > and family
: >>> > - Maybe a mountain retreat somewhere with a huge
: >>> > telescope
: >>> > - Visit the Great Wall of China
: >>> > - Pay the Russians a million dollars to take me to
: >>> > space (maybe :))
: >>> > - College for my kids (this includes some friends
: >>> > kids)
: >>> > - I would like to buy a huge piece of the rain forest
: >>> > that I will never
: >>> burn
: >>> > or run off the natives.
: >>> > - Buy Old Navy and force them to carry cloths for
: >>> > everyone.
: >>> >
: >>> > There is probably more.
: >>> >
: >>> > Rick Eidson
: >>> >
: >>> > -----Original Message-----
: >>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: >>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: >>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:42 AM
: >>> > To: CF-Community
: >>> > Subject: Re: What would you do if you won PowerBall?
: >>> >
: >>> > off the top, in no particular order:
: >>> >
: >>> > - keep working until I can pass knowledge on to a
: >>> > successor
: >>> > - fix up the house, just the way we want it
: >>> > (it's "home", so don't want to move to another place,
: >>> > maybe just expand)
: >>> > - buy homes for kids, relatives, friends, so they
: >>> > always have a roof
: >> over
: >>> > - donate enough money to a particular charitable org
: >>> > (one my Mom worked
: >>> > with)
: >>> > for them to build a school with her name on it
: >>> > - build a homeless shelter w/ job training center
: >>> > - open a company to hire the successful grads of the
: >>> > job center
: >>> > - build an apartment complex to house the workers
: >>> > - travel, travel, travel
: >>> > - study
: >>> > - volunteer
: >>> > - pray
: >>> > - get really physically fit
: >>> > - watch videos
: >>> > - sleep late sometimes, then start the day by making
: >>> > love
: >>> > instead of waking up early to go to work
: >>> >
: >>> > -Ben
: >>> >
: >>> >
: >>> > > http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/2382747/det
: >>> > > a
: >>> > > il.html
: >>> > >
: >>> > >
: >>> > > Rick
: >>> > >
: >>> >
: >>> >
: >>> >
: >>>
:
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