Your remarks make no sense, Kevin. You're saying that a spending-driven
deficit is ok?  OK, if it is a spending-driven deficit, then who's to blame?
The Republican Congress in conjunction with a Republican President are the
first to mind.

"budget surpluses of 1998 through 2001..."
Those are the Clinton years, Kevin.  Your comments about Liberal spending
are ancient and you need a new joke.  I was in the Marine Corps in 1995 when
we didn't think we were going to get a pay check because the President
refused to sign an unbalanced budget presented to him by a Republican
Congress. Luckily, arrangements were made to allow for military paychecks.
While it's true that the Military was stretched thin, and I do hold him
accountable for that, it's a fact that his careful tending of the economy
and deficit elimination led to a more prosperous nation.

I do support lower taxes, but not at the expense of valuable programs that
are needed by our nation (things like welfare - if it were not for welfare,
then you would need to defend your house with a gun to protect things from
being taken by force - think French Revolution), and especially not when the
spending by the Republican Regime (please notice my choice of words, Bush is
an usurper) reaches epic proportions.  Bush personally is partly at fault
for causing the downturn in the economy. An economic depression is partly a
psycological event wherein the residents of a country stop spending money
because they think they need to save it.  He campaigned hard on the issue
that he was needed because there was an impending Economic Doom coming our
way and he could stop it.  Well, he was partly right - the Economic Doom
came our way but he sure hasn't done much to stop it.  Gosh, he's even gone
so far as to spend our money supporting a foreign country.

This war in Iraq was nothing more than a sham for him to find ways to steal
oil from a country.  W cares not a whit about those people, nor are there
WMDs. Saddam is a bad guy, but he wasn't the worst, nor was he even really
anything more than a nuisance.  If we were so concerned with other people's
rights (in this case) then he would have sent a war effort to Liberia, North
Korea, Angola, and Sierra Leone - in the way that Clinton, who did care
about people's right to happiness, sent people to Bosnia, Haiti, and
continued the effort started in Somailia.  Really, this is all about a a way
of controlling huge amounts of oil and then finding ways to jack up oil
prices.  Look - oil prices are higher right now than ANY TIME IN HISTORY.

- Matthew Small


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:16 AM
Subject: Deficit worse than ever


> >From the article: "The CBO's "baseline" deficit projection assumes
emergency wartime spending approved by Congress last year will continue
indefinitely, at a cost of $818 billion through 2013."
>
> Convienently left that one out didn't you Larry.  Does anyone believe that
the war will carry on for another 10 years?  There's $818 billion right
there.
>
> And a Rep from my great state nailed it:
> "Still, House Budget Committee Chairman Jim Nussle (R-Iowa) did not try to
minimize the government's deteriorating fiscal fortunes. He laid the blame
not on tax cuts but on federal spending, which has surged by an average of
7.7 percent per year since 1998."
>
> "This is a spending-driven deficit," Nussle said. "This is not rocket
science."
>
> Of course, Larry, as a lib you can't advocate cutting spending.  Unless,
of course it's cuts in Defense, which we all know we need right now.
>
>
>
> >The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office blames the Bush Tax Cut and
the
> >War in Iraq
> >
> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46805-2003Aug26.html
> >
> >2004 Deficit to Reach $480 Billion, Report Forecasts
> >By Jonathan Weisman
> >Washington Post Staff Writer
> >Wednesday, August 27, 2003; Page A02
> >
> >
> >The federal government will post a record $480 billion deficit next year
> >and accumulate nearly $1.4 trillion in new debt over the coming decade
> >before climbing back into the black by 2012, the nonpartisan
Congressional
> >Budget Office said yesterday.
> >
> >But if President Bush succeeds in making his tax cuts permanent, the
> >government will run substantial budget deficits as far as the eye can
see,
> >the forecast made clear. Add the White House's proposed $400 billion
> >prescription drug benefit, and the deficit would total $324 billion in
2013.
> >--
> >
> >I'd really love to make a comment on this, but its so disgusting how
under
> >the Shrub regime the government went from a multi-billion dollar surplus
to
> >a record deficit in just two years. It seriously makes me wonder on whose
> >side Shrub is really on. Ours or those who want to destroy this nation.
> >
> >larry
> >
> 
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