Hey, some people enjoy overthinking movies! :) - Jim
Bill Wheatley wrote: >The joys of people who see movies and over think them instead of just >having a nice time LOL. > >It was a cute movie, I remember I was a kid working at the Tennis Center >in Ocean Pines. Then all the sudden this movie came out that I refused >to see because I thought it lookd completely retarded. Then I finally >see it and I was like wow what a freaking great movie. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:36 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Bad choice of movies this weekend > > >I think it only means that you've made certain choices, not that it's >necessarily a measure of your intelligence. I'm in, sort of, the same >boat. I work with people all the time that have their Ph.D.s but that >doesn't mean they're necessarily smarter than me (especially considering >some of the things I'm asked to do). However, they were certainly >willing to put in the work to achieve a certain goal. And to reach that >goal, they had to be more intelligent than a sack of potatoes, and they >had to work hard for it. They simply picked a different goal than I did >and learned different things to achieve that goal. > >Do some things happen by luck? Sure, but it's rare to really excel by >luck in real life, and even then it's usually only financial, while >Forrest Gump, as a fictional character, suggested that not only is luck >is all you need but people who actually had aspirations and worked >towards them would inevitably fail. At least that's the movie I saw. > >-Kevin > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Matthew Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:53 AM >Subject: Re: Bad choice of movies this weekend > > > > >>I would have to say that there are plenty of people less intelligent >>than >> >> >I > > >>who are more successful, at least in business. Do you not think this >>is possible? If it isn't, what does that say about me? That I'm >>definitely less intelligent than my boss? Intelligence certainly does >> >> > > > >>not equal success. Success takes much more than being able to figure >>out the value >> >> >of > > >>PHI or doing calculus, or figuring out how things work or liking >>culture >> >> >and > > >>arts more than everybody else. It also takes measures of courage, >>faith, and luck, qualities that Gump had in abundance. >> >>Now, this is not an intelligent conversation. >> >>- Matt Small >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:13 AM >>Subject: Re: Bad choice of movies this weekend >> >> >> >> >>>Yeah! >>> >>>I didn't like the movie either. But in addition to what you mention, >>> >>> > > > >>>I >>> >>> >did > > >>>come away with the "Dumb is Good" message. It presents as a hero a >>> >>> >person > > >>>who's an idiot, yet this idiot succeeds where intellegent people >>>fail. >>> >>> >>Some >> >> >>>people have tried to explain it as a "God has a plan" or a "Zen" >>>type message, but that's bunk. That argument is just a promotion of >>>stupidity shrouded in an enticing package that leads to the people >>>crafting the fictional message subjugating the people who believe >>>it. >>> >>></rant> >>> >>>-Kevin >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Jim Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:57 AM >>>Subject: Re: Bad choice of movies this weekend >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I think the most unforgivable aspect of the movie is the contempt >>>>with which it treats its audience. There's nothing wrong with a >>>>simple >>>> >>>> >plots > > >>>>or characters - films like "Babe" or "The Straight Story" are >>>> >>>> >wonderful, > > >>>>with rich stories crafted around what are essentially one-sentence >>>> >>>> > > > >>>>synopses. >>>> >>>>"Gump", however, by trying to recreate itself as some sort of >>>> >>>> >touchstone > > >>>>for all of recent history (as opposed to Groom's novel, which was >>>>genuinely funny - sort of like an alternate-universe "World >>>>According >>>> >>>> >to > > >>>>Garp"), comes across as a sort of emperor with no clothes. Its >>>>epic feel and length beg for serious consideration, but the >>>>reactionary, stupid and moralistic steamrolling of what are truly >>>>dynamic and >>>> >>>> >complex > > >>>>social events into digestible bits of nostalgic confections is >>>> >>>> >>>infuriating. >>> >>> >>>>The movie's message isn't "Dumb is Good", it's "You're too stupid >>>>to figure this out on your own, so we'll make it easy for you." >>>> >>>>What's even stranger is the principles behind the movie - Tom >>>>Hanks, Robert Zemeckis, Gary Sinise - are extraordinarily >>>>talented, yet >>>> >>>> >managed > > >>>>to not only make this movie with a straight face, but convince the >>>> >>>> >AMPAS > > >>>>that it was somehow more deserving of the Best Picture Oscar than >>>> >>>> >either > > >>>>"Pulp Fiction" or "Shawshank Redemption", which is just amazing. >>>> >>>>- Jim >>>> >>>>Raymond Camden wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I find it interesting you call Forrest Gump anti-intellectual, as >>>>> >>>>> >I've > > >>>>>heard others say that as well. I often wondered why though. The >>>>>main character isn't intelligent, isn't even average, but I never >>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>>>saw the film as saying 'dumb is good'. >>>>> >>>>>-rc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:30 PM >>>>>>To: CF-Community >>>>>>Subject: Re: Bad choice of movies this weekend >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Actually, there is no film that I despise more than "Forrest >>>>>>Gump", and I'm not even sure exactly why I hate it so much. >>>>>>Maybe because it feels >>>>>>disingenuous and anti-intellectual, and it's not in the same >>>>>>league as >>>>>>groaning at incredibly bad MST3K-fare movies like "Space >>>>>>Mutiny" or "The >>>>>>Head That Wouldn't Die" - this is an active hatred along the >>>>>> >>>>>> >lines >of > > >>>>>>Roger Ebert's opinion of "North", my favorite review of his of >>>>>>all time: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/1994/07/931635.html >>>>> >>>>>- Jim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Your ad could be here. 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