Gee, why didn't I think of that? Yeah, just have a good time while being insulted for 2 hours. The movie was a fucking pile of crap.
-Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: RE: Bad choice of movies this weekend > The joys of people who see movies and over think them instead of just > having a nice time LOL. > > It was a cute movie, I remember I was a kid working at the Tennis Center > in Ocean Pines. Then all the sudden this movie came out that I refused > to see because I thought it lookd completely retarded. Then I finally > see it and I was like wow what a freaking great movie. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:36 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Bad choice of movies this weekend > > > I think it only means that you've made certain choices, not that it's > necessarily a measure of your intelligence. I'm in, sort of, the same > boat. I work with people all the time that have their Ph.D.s but that > doesn't mean they're necessarily smarter than me (especially considering > some of the things I'm asked to do). However, they were certainly > willing to put in the work to achieve a certain goal. And to reach that > goal, they had to be more intelligent than a sack of potatoes, and they > had to work hard for it. They simply picked a different goal than I did > and learned different things to achieve that goal. > > Do some things happen by luck? Sure, but it's rare to really excel by > luck in real life, and even then it's usually only financial, while > Forrest Gump, as a fictional character, suggested that not only is luck > is all you need but people who actually had aspirations and worked > towards them would inevitably fail. At least that's the movie I saw. > > -Kevin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:53 AM > Subject: Re: Bad choice of movies this weekend > > > > I would have to say that there are plenty of people less intelligent > > than > I > > who are more successful, at least in business. Do you not think this > > is possible? If it isn't, what does that say about me? That I'm > > definitely less intelligent than my boss? Intelligence certainly does > > > not equal success. Success takes much more than being able to figure > > out the value > of > > PHI or doing calculus, or figuring out how things work or liking > > culture > and > > arts more than everybody else. It also takes measures of courage, > > faith, and luck, qualities that Gump had in abundance. > > > > Now, this is not an intelligent conversation. > > > > - Matt Small > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:13 AM > > Subject: Re: Bad choice of movies this weekend > > > > > > > Yeah! > > > > > > I didn't like the movie either. But in addition to what you mention, > > > > I > did > > > come away with the "Dumb is Good" message. It presents as a hero a > person > > > who's an idiot, yet this idiot succeeds where intellegent people > > > fail. > > Some > > > people have tried to explain it as a "God has a plan" or a "Zen" > > > type message, but that's bunk. That argument is just a promotion of > > > stupidity shrouded in an enticing package that leads to the people > > > crafting the fictional message subjugating the people who believe > > > it. > > > > > > </rant> > > > > > > -Kevin > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jim Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:57 AM > > > Subject: Re: Bad choice of movies this weekend > > > > > > > > > > I think the most unforgivable aspect of the movie is the contempt > > > > with which it treats its audience. There's nothing wrong with a > > > > simple > plots > > > > or characters - films like "Babe" or "The Straight Story" are > wonderful, > > > > with rich stories crafted around what are essentially one-sentence > > > > > synopses. > > > > > > > > "Gump", however, by trying to recreate itself as some sort of > touchstone > > > > for all of recent history (as opposed to Groom's novel, which was > > > > genuinely funny - sort of like an alternate-universe "World > > > > According > to > > > > Garp"), comes across as a sort of emperor with no clothes. Its > > > > epic feel and length beg for serious consideration, but the > > > > reactionary, stupid and moralistic steamrolling of what are truly > > > > dynamic and > complex > > > > social events into digestible bits of nostalgic confections is > > > infuriating. > > > > > > > > The movie's message isn't "Dumb is Good", it's "You're too stupid > > > > to figure this out on your own, so we'll make it easy for you." > > > > > > > > What's even stranger is the principles behind the movie - Tom > > > > Hanks, Robert Zemeckis, Gary Sinise - are extraordinarily > > > > talented, yet > managed > > > > to not only make this movie with a straight face, but convince the > AMPAS > > > > that it was somehow more deserving of the Best Picture Oscar than > either > > > > "Pulp Fiction" or "Shawshank Redemption", which is just amazing. > > > > > > > > - Jim > > > > > > > > Raymond Camden wrote: > > > > > > > > >I find it interesting you call Forrest Gump anti-intellectual, as > I've > > > > >heard others say that as well. I often wondered why though. The > > > > >main character isn't intelligent, isn't even average, but I never > > > > > >saw the film as saying 'dumb is good'. > > > > > > > > > >-rc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > > > >>From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >>Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:30 PM > > > > >>To: CF-Community > > > > >>Subject: Re: Bad choice of movies this weekend > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>Actually, there is no film that I despise more than "Forrest > > > > >>Gump", and I'm not even sure exactly why I hate it so much. > > > > >>Maybe because it feels > > > > >>disingenuous and anti-intellectual, and it's not in the same > > > > >>league as > > > > >>groaning at incredibly bad MST3K-fare movies like "Space > > > > >>Mutiny" or "The > > > > >>Head That Wouldn't Die" - this is an active hatred along the > lines > of > > > > >>Roger Ebert's opinion of "North", my favorite review of his of > > > > >>all time: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/1994/07/931635.html > > > > > > > > > >- Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
