Oh totally.  Nukes only work against conventional military measures.  It's pretty 
useless against terrorism.

----- Original Message -----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Dinowitz)
Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2003 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony

> All depends on one side caring about MAD. If one side cares and 
> the other does
> not, then the point is again moot. In my example, the enemies are 
> well known. In
> the case of the US, the enemies may not be known (or believed to 
> be enemies)
> till its to late.
> Going to the terrorism part of this thread, all an enemy needs to 
> do is drive a
> car bomb into gas stations across the country to cause fear and 
> panic. Go on to
> power plant destruction, bridges, food production, etc. and the US 
> could be hurt
> greatly in no time. I could go into details of where we're 
> vulnerable but then I
> WOULD get a call from the secret service. :)
> Nukes are great as a deterrent if you can use them and the enemy 
> fears them. We
> don't live in that world anymore. We live in a world of enemies 
> who care about
> destruction much more than their own lives. Enemies who think in 
> such long terms
> as to not care if thousands of them die today as they'll win 
> tomorrow. Nukes
> mean nothing to enemies like that.
> 
> > If the possesion of nuclear weapons results in a MAD situation, 
> then most
> assuredly they are a very potent deterrent.  This effectively 
> places any invader
> into a no win situation.  Even if they managed to somehow capture 
> importantareas in the USA, the US gov't could still destroy the 
> home country, any of
> their allies, and the conquered areas about 50 times over.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Dinowitz)
> > Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2003 2:49 pm
> > Subject: Re: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony
> >
> > > > It's all moot anyhow.  The USA will never be invaded, so 
> long as
> > > it has
> > > nuclear weapons.
> > > Nuclear weapons are not the deterrent you may think. Look at a
> > > certain tiny
> > > middle eastern country with nukes. Almost all of their neighbors,
> > > even the ones
> > > with peace treaties, have been getting ready for a land war with
> > > it for years
> > > now. They don't seem afraid of the nukes. If someone decides to
> > > come for the US,
> > > will they be?
> > > Nukes sound nice and all, but...
> > >
> > >
> > 
> 
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