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-----Original Message-----
From: Dharmesh Goel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:51 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
Hi Mathew,
I strongly disagree with
"The publicized fact that is that Middle-Easterners are known to come into
the US via Canada."
This is a case of if a lie is told over and over again, people will start
believing it. The last time I checked, borders are manned and controlled by
US Immigration and customs at points of entry.
Here is a discussion on this:
http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archives/documents/030211_blamecanada_buchanan.
html
<http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archives/documents/030211_blamecanada_buchanan
.html>
Another article:
http://www.herald.ns.ca/stories/2003/01/19/fObserver172.raw.html
<http://www.herald.ns.ca/stories/2003/01/19/fObserver172.raw.html>
Tons of discussion on this topic out there in cyberspace.
Some excerpts
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DISCLOSURE: I'm sure you remember this whole incident over the New Year
period, where there was this alert that there were five men in the United
States.
BUCHANAN: Mm hmm.
DISCLOSURE: And reports were that they had come from Canada, somehow related
to terrorism.
BUCHANAN: And it was a hoax.
DISCLOSURE: And it was a hoax.
BUCHANAN: Right.
DISCLOSURE: So, what do you make of that?
BUCHANAN: Well it was a hoax but [laugh] they probably felt that because it
was from Canada it would be believed, is my guess.
DISCLOSURE: Well is that fair?
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DISCLOSURE: -you've got a situation in this country where you had 19
hijackers coming through the front door, now where's the problem?
BUCHANAN: Well it -Look the- Clearly the United States is the target. And
they come into our airports, they come through Canada, they come through
Mexico, so let's tighten-
DISCLOSURE: Well they- who comes through Canada?
BUCHANAN: Well- Look. We've already been over this, but-
DISCLOSURE: Who comes through Canada though? Has there been an incident with
somebody who comes through-
BUCHANAN: Well there are many terrorists as you know, so, [laugh] that have
been sitting there almost operating freely-
DISCLOSURE: Well-
BUCHANAN: -up in Canada.
DISCLOSURE: Well so you say, but where's the terrorist incidents?
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Dharmesh
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:38 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
The publicized fact that is that Middle-Easterners are known to come into
the US via Canada. This is a suspicious situation, plain and simple. I
didn't agree with the fact that he was tortured or deported. I said it was
suspicious and I believe the right thing to do is to question further. You
don't have to give me one, the one taints the other two. I don't like a lot
of things going on with this kind of interrogation, but they were right on
the money in detaining him for further questioning. Bigoted? How about
realistic. Lots of people have been "further questioned" for far less,
including myself. I'm a young white southern male.
- Matt Small
----- Original Message -----
From: Raymond Camden
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:37 PM
Subject: RE: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
Wow, so you listed 3 facts:
1) A middle-easterner living in Canada.
So, is Canada just a bunch of white guys?
2) Coming back from a Middle-Eastern country.
So all Middle-Eastern countries are under suspicion now?
3) Known contact with a terrorist.
Wasn't he a suspected, not proven terrorist? Wasn't the contact from
years ago? I can maybe give you this one, but the other two are simply
wrong. Bigoted at worst.
-rc
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:40 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
>
>
> A Middle-Easterner living in Canada, coming back from a
> Middle-Eastern country, known contact with Middle-Eastern
> terrorists. That's suspicious. I didn't say guilty, I said
> suspicious.
>
> - Matt Small
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Raymond Camden
> To: CF-Community
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:22 PM
> Subject: RE: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
>
>
> > I don't agree with the torture and deportation... but I
> > stand by the fact that it's a very suspicious scene.
>
> Why? You said he was middle eastern flying from a islamic
> country. Is
> that something rare? Doesn't this happen thousands of times
> a day? Is it
> suspicious to fly home?
>
> -ray
>
>
>
>
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