Dana
> Why should we then import anything from French, German or Russian
> companies, or a company from any state that happened to think Bush's
> war
> plans were based on conjecture? We're importing oil from Russia. Why
>
> is that ok? We're giving tax dollars to Russian companies from that.
>
> Why is it ok for Daimler-Benz to own Chrysler? They didn't support
> the
> war, but thousands of people buy Mercedes and BMW's and Minis every
> month. There's American money going straight to Deutschland right
> there.
>
> Singling out this particular arena for denying particpation is nothing
>
> more than childishness on Bush's part. If he was serious about
> isolating non-participants, they'd assign massive tariffs to imports
> of
> ALL products. But they can't, and they won't. The WTO said assigning
>
> steel tariffs was illegal, and Bush stopped it. If they tried it on
> anything else, it would be denied just as quickly. You don't get to
> say
> you're a member of the "international community" then try to not play
> fair.
>
> - Jim
>
> Jerry Johnson wrote:
>
> >Jim,
> >
> >Why in the world should the United States government give American
> tax dollars to French companies, regardless of their stance on the
> war?
> >
> >I don't see a single reason that they should get dollar one.
> >
> >Jerry Johnson
> >Tax payer.
> >
> >
> >
> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/11/03 11:36AM >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >Who says that companies in France, Germany or Russia didn't agree
> with
> >the government's official position? Governments are meant to take
> >stances, but I guarantee companies with international business
> >relationships are *far* more pragmatic. Do you really think that
> some
> >electrical services firm officers in France sit around in street
> cafes,
> >wearing striped shirts, pencil moustaches and berets, chain-smoking
> and
> >saying "Zees Boosh, 'ee ees a merde-de-tete, non?" and singing "La
> >Marseillese"? Wake up!
> >
> >Bush simply cuts off nations that saw through his flimsy excuse for a
>
> >war like some sort of impetuous child. Russia is THE largest
> producer
> >of oil in the world today. You don't think there are some experts in
>
> >the field of oil field maintenance and management there, do you?
> >Obviously, though, we don't want them competing with American firms!
> I
> >mean, all the manuals will be in Russian or something.
> >
> >Anyone can criticize the faux-socialist French government or Russia's
>
> >questionably stable democratic underpinnings, but these are not
> >oligarchies. They're home to trillions of dollars of private
> enterprise
> >who could possibly benefit from contracts in Iraq - money that would
> go
> >not only to those organizations, but to the people that work for them.
>
> >
> >Bush said the war in Iraq was against the rulers of Iraq, not against
>
> >the people. Funny that his backlash against the nations that opposed
>
> >his war is against the people, and not the rulers.
> >
> >- Jim
> >
> >John Stanley wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>the us and the other sixty-odd countries who helped us get to bid.
> now I'm
> >>not arguing the fact that the us companies may get the bulk of the
> >>contracts, but I as a taxpayer would rather my money go to US
> companies than
> >>another countries.
> >>
> >>i am also not arguing that there wont be corruption in the contract
> process,
> >>ahem Halibuton, but it is still better than the French getting my
> money.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:46 AM
> >>To: CF-Community
> >>Subject: Re: Bush gives the finger to the world again
> >>
> >>
> >>Why should US companies benefit from a war manufactured by our own
> country?
> >>When organized crime does that it's called a "protection racket".
> >>
> >>-Kevin
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "John Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:32 AM
> >>Subject: RE: Bush gives the finger to the world again
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>The countries in question can still do business with Iraq, they
> just cant
> >>>bid on the contracts that the US taxpayers are paying for. They can
> be
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>hired
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>as subcontractors for the contracts as well. I dont see why this is
> such a
> >>>huge deal? Why should the US taxpayers pay french companies to
> rebuild
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Iraq
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>when they werent willing to support the US efforts in the first
> place?
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:28 AM
> >>>To: CF-Community
> >>>Subject: Bush gives the finger to the world again
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Former top U.S. officials are blasting the Bush administration for
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>reopening
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>a rift with Europe by excluding critics of the war from prime
> contracts
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>for
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Iraq's reconstruction.
> >>>
> >>>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105433,00.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >><http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105433,00.html>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>><http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105433,00.html>
> >>>
> >>>"I thought we were in the process of acquiring support rather than
> >>>alienating it," former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright
> (search)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>said.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>So let me get this straight.
> >>>
> >>>1. Economy is bad.
> >>>2. Find a patsy country and accuse them of something unfounded.
> >>>3. Get called on it by other countries.
> >>>4. Attack anyway
> >>>5. Deny reconstruction contracts to countries that wouldn't help in
> an
> >>>illegal war.
> >>>
> >>>And people are complaining? I don't get it. It looks like a perfect
> plan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>to
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>boost the economy by giving local companies big contracts.
> >>>
> >>>-Kevin
> >>> _____
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> _____
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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