at least lived then, in Poughkeepsie so they went to all the local shows).
Very nice people - but some weird ass fans. People consider trekkies or
Star Wars fans odd, but at least they're recognized. "ElfQuest" fans just
as rabid but not nearly predictable. ;^)
I was waiting in line to speak with them. I had the two "Beauty and the
Beast" graphic novels they did for First Publishing with me to be signed (so
kill me, I loved that show). The guy ahead of me had literally EVERY SINGLE
collected ElfQuest book - a stack nearly two feet tall - and was wearing Elf
ears. He told me that "every time I drive by Poughkeepsie I say, 'There's
Elfland!'"
I saw Richard later walking and mentioned to him "you have some really
intense fans". His answer was "Yeah, we love'em but sometimes I'm glad we
have a table between us."
Some of those upstate shows were great - just a high-school gym or
auditorium, but SO MANY great people lived in that area. Jim Shooter, Berni
Wrightson, the Pinis, and lots of others that I can't remember. The Hudson
Valley was a gold mine for comic pros.
Jim Davis
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From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 3:58 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Return of the King - SPOILER -
Given that he filmed it first then animated on top of it, its no
wonder it was an expensive effort. I also preferred elements of the
Bakshi LOTR. However Bakshi does not have a good reputation among
artists and writers. Ralph Pini one of the people who did the comic
series ElfQuest, has stated that he would not work with him if Bakshi
was the last animator on earth.
larry
>I actually appreciated many of the staging and scripting elements of the
>Bakshi version as well.
>
>
>For example the scene with Galadriel's mirror was much more as I had
>envisioned: she was lighthearted, always in control and genuinely pleased
>when Frodo asked her if she'd like the ring. She was never seriously
>tempted. The scene was serious in subject but light in tone: I felt it
>(rightly) gave Frodo just a hint of respite and levity. In the Jackson
>version the scene was hard, taut and dramatic. She WAS very seriously
>tempted.
>
>
>Also while I didn't care so much for the design for the Balrog the fall of
>Gandalf was more tense in the Bakshi version. Gandalf was pulled over
while
>Boromir dove to save him missing him by inches. In the Jackson version
>there was never really any scale set - Gandalf hung there for quite a while
>and we're left wondering why somebody didn't try to run and pull him back
>up.
>
>
>They did play a little simpler in the Bakshi version, but they gave him
more
>depth as well. His desire to see elves was more clear as was his love for
>Bill the pony.
>
>
>Overall I greatlyprefer the Jackson version (the Bakshi version was more
>experiment than anything else) but I think he often adds melodrama where
>it's not needed and special effects where the actors skill should be enough
>(namely when Bilbo accuses Gandalf of trying to keep the ring himself,
where
>Bilbo attempts to snatch the ring from Frodo and where Galadriel s
tempted).
>
>
>But still, I wish Bakshi had been able to do the second installment of his
>version.
>
>
>Jim Davis
>
>
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>
>From: William H Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 2:55 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Return of the King - SPOILER -
>
>
>The rotoscoping was better in Wizards, too.
>
>will
>
>Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
>> I have the movies on DVD, the Rankin and Bass The Hobbit and Return
>> of the King, and Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings. The Rankin and
>> Bass stuff are garbage, the Bakshi film was an interesting
>> experiment. The rotoscopy technique he used was much better developed
>> in film Fire and Ice he did with Frank Frazetta.
>>
>> larry
>>
>> >I have an even vaguer memory of the animated movies. :-)
>> >
>> > I think I'm going to have to read the books again.
>> >
>> >At 04:05 PM 12/19/2003, you wrote:
>> >>Subject: Return of the King - SPOILER -
>> >>From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:40:01 -0600
>> >>Thread:
>>
>>>http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=
1
>0892&forumid=5#99456
>> >>
>> >>Much of your memories, like Shelob talking and the Frodo of the Nine
>> Fingers
>> >>song comes from the animated movies.
>> >>
>> >>I do miss the orcs singing "Where there's a whip there's a way." One
>> of my
>> >>favorite songs as a young'un.
>> >>
>> >>-Kevin
>> >
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