Everything mentioned below opens the doors wide open for the same kind of
despicable shit to happen to any American POWs and kidnapped persons... And
what can the US say about that, when they (a select few representing the US)
do the same thing?.... Not much.



> What was depicted in these photos is in no way, shape or form
> acceptable under the Geneva Convention, or under
> International Law. Regardless of whether we are dealing with
> Americans or the citizens of any other sovereign nation in the world.
>
> These men and women were not terrorists and most were not
> even suspected terrorists.
>
> This was what the report by the US Army Investigation found:
>
> * Prisoners were punched, slapped and kicked.
> * In some cases, soldiers jumped on their naked feet.
> * Male and female detainees were left naked for days at a
> time. Some were videotaped and photographed, an especially
> degrading experience for Muslims who regard being
> photographed as a sin. * Some were forcibly arranged in
> various sexually explicit positions for the photographs.
> * Naked male prisoners were forced to wear women's underwear.
> * Others were forced to perform sexual acts upon themselves
> while being photographed.
> * One naked prisoner was forced to stand on a box with a
> sandbag on his head. Wires were attached to his fingers, toes
> and penis to simulate electric torture.
> * A male military police guard had sex with a female prisoner.
>
> Other allegations have been found to be credible:
>
> * claims that soldiers broke chemical lights and poured phosphoric
> liquid on the prisoners,     
> * threatened them with guns,
> * beat them with broom handles and chairs,
> * sodomized one with a chemical light
> * allowed military working dogs to bite them.
>
> The US President has rightly called these actions "Shameless
> and unacceptable".
>
> This was not right, regardless of how you wish to view it. It
> is NOT acceptable.
> These acts had absolutely nothing to do with interrogation.
>
> -Gel
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 11:46 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: POW Abuses in IRaq..
>
> Here are some more:
>
> http://rwor.org/a/1239/fallujahsidebar.htm
>
> I still can't see anything that would prove physical
> violence.  Hell regular cops are allowed to lie and use
> psychological tricks to get you to talk, shouldn't the
> military, especially since we are not dealing with American
> citizens, have the ability to use alternative methods to get
> information and cooperation from prisoners?
>
> While physical abuse is certainly banned by the Geneva
> convention, I am not sure what it has to say about something
> like this.
>
> SPC Timothy Heald
> Rifleman
> A co 1-116th Infantry(Light)
>
>
>
>
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