didn't the story break on Sixty Minutes? That's a pretty damn credible source. I had trouble finding pictures yesterday; maybe they were being run past lawyers. There is one on the front page of the Albuquerque Journal today.

I fail to see how lining guys up againt a wall with bags on their heads and making them masturbate is of ANY value except to somebody's sick sense of humor. It amounts to sexual assault, and as any rape victim knows physical violence is not necessary for lasting harm to be done. Not to mention that this is a pulic relations fiasco of the highest order. The cartoon in the newspaper this morning asked what the difference was between our guards and Saddam's guards. Answer... Saddam's guards got promoted. Good point if true, and we need to make sure that it IS true. Anyone involved needs to face some consequences.

Dana

>Without getting the exact links, the facts I cited are listed on
>www.cbsnews.com <http://www.cbsnews.com/>  and www.cnn.com
><http://www.cnn.com/>  
>
>They are also being repeated on BBC World.
>
>-Gel
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tim Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Where are those facts from?  I have only spent a little time reading
>about
>this and didn't walk away with anything concrete.  If you have a
>reputable
>source please share it.
>SPC Timothy Heald
>Rifleman
>A co 1-116th Infantry(Light)
>
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