hey man,
dont feel bad about the way your site may "look".
you never claimed to be a designer, just a developer. I still hold the
opinion that there is a distinct difference.
I know many a designer that could build some flash apps that would make you
cry but could not if/else their way through making the perfect cup of coffee
in the morning.
conversely i know developers (including myself ;), that could build an
application to make toast, scramble some eggs, flip the pages of the paper
for you all while taking your pulse and yet they cant color inside the lines
of a coloring book.
also, sometimes the low design standards of a site have more to do with the
companies constraints than that of the developer. Take Baylor Health Care
for instance. I wrote some bad ass code for that place and their site looks
horrid (http://www.bhcs.com) and yet i would in no way doubt my abilities.
this all goes back to the saying, "dont judge a book by it's cover". The
ONLY way to truely test a developer is IN the work environment. How many of
you can say you NEVER reference a book for some syntax you can't quite
remember off the top of your head? Yet an interview with a technical
assessment would probably determine that as a weakness, when in all
actuallity in the "real world" half of being a good developer is to know
what you are doing and the other half is to realise when you dont and FIGURE
IT OUT.
the employer will figure it out in all due time. I have found that there is
just a FEELING that you get when the right person is in front of you.
keep up the good work Joe.
-chris.alvarado
>From: "Joe Ziems" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: CF-Jobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Looking for work
>Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:43:47 -0400
>
>I'm assuming Rob is including himself in this statement :)
>Seriously, though. Let's put this one to bed. John has apologized.
>Design is largely a matter of taste.
>I just looked at my site again, and I STILL like it.
>And I stand by my assertion that I am experienced. If anybody out there is
>still considering hiring me, just email me, we can exchange phone numbers,
>and i'll wow you with my knowledge of CF, SQL, javascript, Java, php, etc.
>But if you're thinking of emailing me (or the list) just to say how much my
>site sucks (without any constructive input as to how to make it better),
>please don't. My ego has suffered enough already.
>
>Joe.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Flesher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 12:03 PM
>To: CF-Jobs
>Subject: RE: Looking for work
>
>
>I'm normally against talking down about other people's work, but why is it
>that all these "experienced" contractors have such horrible sites? I think
>we might need a new definition of what an "experienced" developer is.
>
>Rob Flesher
>www.robflesher.com
>
>
> >From: "Don Bellamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: CF-Jobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Looking for work
> >Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:03:41 -0400
> >
> >His site was pretty funny too..... :)
> >
> >----------------------------------------------
> >Error Occurred While Processing Request
> >Error Diagnostic Information
> >ODBC Error Code = S0002 (Base table not found)
> >
> >
> >[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Invalid object name
> >'dbo.AddressBook'.
> >
> >
> >SQL = "SELECT DISTINCT id, name, Title, phoneExt, eMail, dept FROM
> >dbo.AddressBook WHERE companycode = '3' OR companycode = '2' ORDER BY
> >dept"
> >
> >Data Source = "IMPACTI"
> >
> >
> >The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier
> >of (CFQUERY), occupying document position (10:1) to (10:53).
> >
> >
> >Date/Time: 07/16/01 10:59:16
> >Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0)
> >Remote Address: 12.150.43.225
> >HTTP Referer: http://www.impact-publishing.com/nav1.cfm
> >
> >
> >
> >---
> >Don Bellamy
> >SiteObjects, Inc.
> >http://www.siteobjects.com/
> >Tel (517) 324-4227 ext 100
> >Fax (517) 324-4267
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joe Ziems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:17 PM
> > > To: CF-Jobs
> > > Subject: FW: Looking for work
> > >
> > > I got this little gem from John Menken at The Impact Group.
> > > Apparently, he didn't feel confident enough to post this to the whole
> > > group,
> > > so I will do it for him.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Menken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 4:55 PM
> > > To: 'Joe Ziems'
> > > Subject: RE: Looking for work
> > >
> > >
> > > Just looked at your site. Can't say that I'm all that impressed. Empty
> > > pages
> > > and radio buttons that fire like submit buttons don't really convey
> >the
> > > message that you know what you are doing. You should probably
> >substitute
> > > "inexperienced but willing to exaggerate" for "experienced" and you
> >would
> > > be
> > > closer to the mark.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, we had loads of laughs looking at your sample
> >sites.
> > > And
> > > that's got to be worth something.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joe Ziems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:58 PM
> > > To: CF-Jobs
> > > Subject: Looking for work
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I am an experienced CF developer looking for perm/contract work in the
> > > Columbus, OH area.
> > > You can see my resume at http://www.joez.net.
> > >
> >
>
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