One thing that is true about Kansas city is that we are a head quarter town.
Companies here are under a great deal of pressure to keep up with current
technology and Java seems to be the choice for building new systems or
upgrading legacy systems. Cold Fusion does not have as many customers here
as they do in Dallas, Chicago, St. Louis and other similar sized towns. That
is why I say let's talk about what every we want to but still give all the
support to our CF developers that they need.
I like your idea about getting paid to go to the meetings. There has been
some talk at Macromedia about a new form of user group that exists inside
the walls of a company. As more information develops on the resources that
will be available to a company that wants to start such a group I will
forward that information to the group.
Bryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cox, Billy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:16 PM
Subject: RE: [KCFusion] Meeting
| Bryan,
|
| I'm a lurker/occasional poster, and except for the Forta visit, I haven't
| attended any of the meetings. There are two recognized values of meeting
| with a professional group. One is for profession-specific enrichment. The
| other is for networking.
|
| Could it be that the CF Developers in this area have access to ample
| resources already, and so they are not seeking out new resources (such as
| attending KCFusion meetings)? I'm not sure that anyone can ever do 'too
| much' networking, but people may not value the networking potential of the
| KCFusion meetings enough to take an entire evening out of their schedule.
|
| So that I don't offer critique without some constructive suggestion,
here's
| my thought. I would be more inclined to attend an afternoon meeting. I
would
| receive the double-benefit of being on 'company-time' and also be
developing
| my skills and networking with other professionals.
|
| Generally speaking, organizations increase participation by lowering costs
| and/or increasing benefits. I propose that KCFusion reduce what it would
| 'cost' me to attend by moving the meeting to an afternoon time slot.
|
|
| Billy Cox
| Sprint PCS
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Bryan LaPlante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 12:28 PM
| To: [ KCFusion ]
| Subject: [KCFusion] Meeting
|
|
| I see that Ryan has been trying to get some response from the group about
| what your interests are. I have been involved with this group for about a
| year now and I have noticed that we are a very quiet group. I don't know
if
| that means that we are all CF guru's or if it means that the majority of
our
| day is spent dealing with other technologies that consume our time and
| interests. I remember when I first started in IT my first language was
Java.
| I was about to jump off the nearest cliff for the lack of resources that
| were available to me. After getting a handle on Internet technologies I
| wanted to help others get through the experience of learning a new
language.
|
| There are about 10 core people that are always ready to help others in
this
| group and I bet they had a similar experience to mine when they were
| starting out. It would be kind of nice if we could all respond to them
when
| they ask us if there is anything we would like to talk about. I am not
| complaining about meeting attendance or the lack of speakers but in the
| spirit of the way Ron Hornbaker started this group we should be free to
talk
| about any kind of technology that a CF developer is faced with.
|
| Any one that wants to give a presentation or suggest a focus for a meeting
| all you have to do is email one of the directors and we will give you any
| help you need to find answers to your issues. If any of us would do that
| then once a month there would be some idea of common issues that the
| community have been faced with and thus a subject for the meeting. I don't
| think that I can stand up once a month and entertain you, so the
alternative
| is to let the group know if there is anything that you need help with.
Some
| one mentioned that the group seems to be more responsive to the subject of
| Java (integration with CF, JRun, how to write a JavaBean) and so on, if
that
| is what everyone is interested in then lets do it.
|
| If I don't get at least 10 responses about covering some subject I will
call
| Ron Ramphal and tell him to let our meeting room go to some other group
that
| might need it.
|
| Bryan LaPlante
| 816-347-8220
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| http://www.netwebapps.com
| Web Development
|
|
|
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