Control is something that you need on when and if... That's the problem... Go off and be a C programmer or write Java... Until you collect your own tried and tested library of working things to do things we take for granted, you will be billing a ton of cash to achieve what we can natively...
Control is a conditional thing only when you can't do with what is within the parameters... It reminds me of the Linux flames against windows... Let's face it, writing code for most people is a paycheck, not an intellectual purity pursuit... On the flip side, hiring a code writer is about efficiency, reliability and subtle perception issues... Client's tend not care about the intellectual purity pursuit... Business in the US is mostly an efficiency model.. cost less, work sooner... Anyone can level and uneven but opened minded client very easily to one side or the other... Just like spoken languages, there are many ways to communicate the point, all of which are fine and well suited for each individual group. -paris Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com (p) 1-212-655-4477 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -----Original Message----- From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 9:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP Not necessarily. Truth is that by having it all built in on one place, you are simplying your life, not to mention that when you do run into trouble it's easier to get help and solutions. I'm sitting here asking myself, why you hate ColdFusion so much. It sounds to me like you are just being negative because you prefer using third party tools. Third party tools are cool, but at times they are tedious. Did I mention no support? Truth is that in this world, you get what you pay for: The cheap is expensive, and the expensive is cheap! By that I mean, if you try to cut corners, simply because it's $500.00. in the long run when the application crashes and the author of the module you used is no longer available, you'll be stuck with a non working application. The truth is that THAT is the beauty of Coldfusion, an all in one solution that is really affordable and easy to use. Think about that for a bit.... Pablo Varando http://www.cfpablo.com http://www.easycfm.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:56 PM Subject: RE: CF vs. ASP > Well that is just what I was getting at. It is nice that CF has all this > wrapped up functionality, but it comes at a price. That price is > control. Sure there is usually a way to get it to do what you want, but > that generally takes longer than it would have, had you just used a 3rd > party library to begin with. > > Matt Liotta > President & CEO > Montara Software, Inc. > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > V: 415-577-8070 > F: 415-341-8906 > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:41 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP > > > > Perhaps this is a really loaded question... but what is it that you > want > > it > > to do? I have experienced issues with CF not doing things they way > I'd > > like/expect it to... but rarely do I come across a problem that can't > be > > solved in *some* way. > > > > -Novak > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:18 PM > > Subject: Re: CF vs. ASP > > > > > > > Matt Liotta wrote: > > > > > > > > I am not disagreeing that CF is faster to develop in. I am simply > > > > pointing out that it is not because one particular feature takes > less > > > > lines to code in CF than another language. I suspect that just as > much > > > > time is spent in another language learning an email library's API > as > > is > > > > wasted by CFers trying to figure why cfmail doesn't do what it is > > > > supposed to. > > > > > > Worse. First I waste much time figuring out what CF does, then I > learn > > > something else because CF doesn't do what I want it to do. > > > > > > Jochem > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
