I can use the CFMX MM DB drivers in a JSP page..No problem. however.. i need
to use it in a Java Application..tried to load the Driver..
Class.forName("macromedia.jdbc.MacromediaDriver")
Keep getting ClassNotFound Error..
I put the macromedia_driver.jar in the class path.. still not loading.. Do i
need to import something? What am i missing?

Joe

PS:Old Thread.
I am just catching up on this Thread..
Isnt the idea to comply with J2EE Architecture? Model-View-Controller model
etc.. Why would some want to write in-line Java..?
Anyways... 



On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:09:16 -0500 Phil Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The decision to disallow inline java code was
> definitely not a cut and dry one. One reason
> was definitely to enforce a cleaner separation
> of syntax; the other, which I hadn't mentioned,
> was to remove some additional complexity from
> the parsing/compiling process. Because of the
> differences between typing and syntax, parsing
> a page that had both Java and CFML/CFScript
> would have been a bear.
> 
> Phil
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 2:37 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Java in CF (CFMX)
> 
> 
> Thursday, November 21, 2002, 11:54:58 PM, you
> wrote:
> 
> MT> Jon Hall wrote:
> >> The case for allowing inline Java is simple,
> CF developers can use 
> >> Java without having to know everything about
> Java. Methods and 
> >> classes are easy to get. Compiling,
> classpath's, and understanding 
> >> the lengths Java goes to, to abstract
> everything, etc. is not.
> 
> MT> Knowing just a little about a language as
> deep/complex as Java can 
> MT> be "dangerous" in a number of ways...
> 
> MT> It's very easy to run into errors in java
> if you don't understand 
> MT> how it all works (ex. trying to instantiate
> an interface).  One of 
> MT> the overriding strengths of CF is that it
> offers a great deal of 
> MT> power in an easy to use/learn style.  This
> sort of thing, IMO, goes 
> MT> against that strength.
> 
> MT> Mixing CFML and Java can very quickly lead
> to code that is horribly 
> MT> organized and difficult to follow/maintain.
>  Obviously, anal coders 
> MT> will keep things nice and neat, but others
> will be mashing CFML, 
> MT> CFScript, Java, and SQL together
> haphazardly.
> 
> MT> Then there's the compatibility thing...
> Java lists != CF lists.  
> MT> Java arrays != CF arrays.  Etc.  Again,
> this can lead to confusion 
> MT> and cause all kinds of errors.
> 
> I say let the coders (and the pm's who have a
> clue ) who write the applications make the
> decision on what works in their application.
> I'm not trying to be facetious, but be brutally
> honest, I couldn't care less that anyone else
> thinks my hypothetical hybrid Java/CF code is
> unorganized or difficult to maintain, as long
> as those that it matters to, like my boss and
> clients don't care either. So I don't see how
> the fear of some overwhelming horde of
> organized code existing somewhere out there,
> just over the horizon, really is a valid
> argument against allowing inline Java within CF
> templates.
> 
> >> CFQuery is the perfect example here. If CF
> gives developers the power 
> >> to do whatever they want within cfquery
> tags, then why not java 
> >> within cfjava tags? Seems's inconsistent to
> me. Especially since 
> >> cfquery probably the biggest strength of the
> CF language.
> 
> MT> SQL and CFML serve 2 different purposes,
> database manipulation and 
> MT> application logic.  Java and CFML serve the
> same purpose, 
> MT> application logic.
> 
> That's not entirely true. TSQL and probably
> PLSQL work fine within cfquery tags. Terrible
> as it may sound, if I want to loop over a
> cfquery that manipulates a cursor I can.
> 
> I'm not saying there are not valid reasons for
> disallowing inline Java, I'm just saying that
> limiting the flexibility of CF just because of
> the possibility that nasty code may come into
> existence is not a good enough reason in my
> opinion, but it's the only one that's been put
> forward by both you and Phil. I also don't want
> to start yet another debate about what's good
> and bad for CF, but as you said earlier, I am
> curious as well. Though I suspect it's similar
> reasoning behind not allowing cfscript to call
> tags in the past (not that I ever got the
> reasoning behind that either).
> 
> -- 
> jon
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
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