Yes, exactly.  For a customer who has a largely *static* site and wants to do modest 
stuff, Contribute is a fine solution and I would recommend it to clients who are 
locked into a big static solution for whatever reason.

To answer Joshua's question regarding why do they need to pay me for a content 
management system?  Well, they have to pay somebody, don't they?  Ignoring all of the 
added value I can provide within an integrated system -- as opposed to one where I 
have to work around a solution that attempts to be standalone rather than a component, 
as Contribute does -- I want the person who gets paid to be me... not the next guy... 
and I certainly don't want to be put out of business by my tool supplier.

Of course we have to adapt to changing landscapes etc. etc.  However this sort of 
channel conflict is an old story oft repeated.  When the supplier goes into the 
end-user solutions business -- even if they're only sticking their big toe into the 
market ***at the moment*** -- its bad news for the VAR, developer etc.

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Matt Robertson, MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com - Retail
http://foohbar.org - ColdFusion Tools
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from: Jason Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:18:42 -0800

>I have to agree with Matt - it undercuts my business.
>But on the other hand.... I do have clients that spend very good money
>with me on large feature and graphic updates.. So where the dozens of
>faxes and emails which come through, the tracking and billing of these
>whordes of changes, delay the client and I from making more important
>changes - I have a duty to my clients to help them run efficiently. 
>
>Point is in some cases - this will free up some time and allow you to
>create more important changes. While allowing clients text only changes,
>most often than not - an enthusiastic client, whom sees delay changes =
>happy web surfers - they commit to larger and more frequent updates and
>therefore increase my profits.
>
>But  - I hope it does stay on the desktop - because once it hits the web
>- all those web based forms and intuitive back end solutions come under
>fire.. Not sure any of us would enjoy that.
>
>my 02 cents 
>jay miller
>
>Matt Robertson wrote:
>
>
>Personally, my answer to that is an emphatic NO.  
>
>
>
>Thats my job to build a system that my customers can use to do that.  If
>Macromedia becomes an end-user solutions provider it undercuts my
>business.
>
>
>
>Contribute is fine as a generic and rather basic solution.  It has a
>fine niche and, speaking for myself, I hope it stays there.
>
>
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>Matt Robertson, MSB Designs, Inc.
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>http://mysecretbase.com <http://mysecretbase.com>  - Retail
>
>http://foohbar.org <http://foohbar.org>  - ColdFusion Tools
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>date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:34:47 -0500
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>  
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>Just got a snazzy tri-fold in the mail today about Macromedia
>
>Contribute. It looks great, too bad it doesn't run on the web.
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>
>
>Wouldn't it be nice to make Contribute a Java application that could be
>
>integrated into an existing web-application to give this kind of
>
>power/control to us developers so that we could hand it out to whoever
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>needs to use it - and have it be web-based so as not to have to maintain
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>software installations on multiple users' machines?
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>
>
>Just a thought. At $99 it's a good deal, but it would be more useful if
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>it would run on the web.
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>My $0.02
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>
>
>Joshua Miller
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>Head Programmer / IT Manager
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>Garrison Enterprises Inc.
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