That which is least secure is that which is a target... Cutter
Dave Lyons wrote: >Developer security???? > >You mean like they did with ASP? > >Oh, wait, they stopped development of that....... > >And how long before asp.net gets scrapped for something "new" > >And I doubt "20 years" from now you can still use ASP > >I can see it now >"DreamPage" or "FrontWeaver" >can u imagine what would happen to DWMX if it fell into MS hands??? >Talk about security break down > >And all this so MS can get more windows servers out there, they have a >lot to prove first. >Remember the saying: >Money can buy a lot of things in this world, just not a secure windows >server.... > >Dave > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 1:44 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: RE: MS CF? > >You can sit here and complain that MS is the bad guy, but they are not >the company you have put your faith in. I know I have the unpopular view >on this list as anti-MM, but I can tell you that if MS owned Flash, you >wouldn't have to worry about it being sold again. Same goes for Cold >Fusion. You could rest assured that the technology and education you put >into MS will still be viable in 20 years. Which is something only a fool >would say about Cold Fusion or Flash which are both still in their >relative adolescence. > >Quite frankly, MS offers developers security. Something that MM and >Allaire have failed quite miserably at (IMO). > >Rest assured though, we will probably not fall to the evil empire. If >acquiring MM is a bid to diminish J2EE, I would expect IBM or Sun to >offer a merger to counter an MS acquisition. After all, they both seemed >to have invested a great deal in Cold Fusion and its J2ee developers. > >Although I still tell every CF developer I meet to learn a new language. >Bottom line is that a broader skill set is never a detriment. > >Adam Wayne Lehman >Web Systems Developer >Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health >Distance Education Division > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 1:22 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: RE: MS CF? > >nah - no pitying required :) > >So how would selling your MS shares after MM was acquired not be >reinforcing >your opinion below? You would both be voicing your disapproval to MS and >be >profiting from it. Seems silly as an investor to voice your opinion >before >hand based on internet speculation from the Register. > >Adam. > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 11:58 AM >>To: CF-Talk >>Subject: RE: MS CF? >> >> >>Well, welcome to America where you vote means nothing unless >>there is an >>amount of money tied to it. I buy stocks in companies where I >>like their >>business practices, think they have good products, and >>approve of how they >>treat their staff. >> >>Sometimes I loose money, often I make money. Because in the >>end how you run >>your business is how you wind up being treated - in this >>world or the next. >> >>I disapprove of a lot of Microsoft's business practices, and >>I think they >>are an ethically bad company. They make money - yes - but >>that is all they >>do. >> >>Plus I sleep *really* well. >> >>ALL IMHO as it is my funny green pieces of paper that we have >>put value on. >> >>(If you think it's all about the money - I pity you) >>Rob >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:39 AM >>To: CF-Talk >>Subject: RE: MS CF? >> >> >>Why would you sell it? I'm no Wall St. slickster, but >>wouldn't you make out >>well if you were suddenly in possession of $54 MS stock in >>exchange for your >>$11 MM shares? >> >> >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 11:32 AM >>>To: CF-Talk >>>Subject: RE: MS CF? >>> >>> >>>Ha, from the Robertson-Ravo news source :) >>> >>>Guess now I *don't* have to sell my Macromedia stock, whew! >>> >>>Rob >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:04 AM >>>To: CF-Talk >>>Subject: RE: MS CF? >>> >>> >>>its not >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: 23 December 2002 17:07 >>>To: CF-Talk >>>Subject: RE: MS CF? >>> >>> >>>Please tell me this isn't true. >>> >>>Rob >>> >>>http://treebeard.sourceforge.net >>>http://ruinworld.sourceforge.net >>>Scientia Est Potentia >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Len Conrad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:07 AM >>>To: CF-Talk >>>Subject: MS CF? >>> >>> >>>http://theregister.co.uk/content/4/28667.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
