>Makes me wonder if MM is trying to compete at all.
I am wondering the same .. dont think there is a competition.

Win2k Advanced Server = US$3999
http://www.microsoft.com/catalog/display.asp?site=10188&subid=22&pg=8

Now Windows 2003 or Window.Net Licensing is supposedly based on CPU's and supposed to 
be alot more expensive.

Joe

-------Original Message-------
From: Adrocknaphobia Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 02/03/03 05:01 PM
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE

> 
> Those prices are pretty hefty in comparison to .NET. With .NET you need
only one server too. I believe win2k is around $1100 and advanced at 3k.
Makes me wonder if MM is trying to compete at all.

Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE

Cantrell,
This is what i found on Macromedia.com

Prices on MM with NO Subsciption
ColdFusion MX for JRun(1 CPU)  = US $3,399
ColdFusion MX for JRun(2 CPU)  = US $6.798
JRun 4(1 CPU License)  =  US $899 
JRun 4(2 Cpu License)  =  US $1799

Basically 2 CPU box cost = US $8597

Is this right information? if you have CF4.5 Ent and above, take 30% off
discount through Macromedia Volume License Program(MVLP).

6.798-2039.40(30%)=4758.60+1799(Jrun)
ColdFusion MX for JRun(2 CPU)  = US $6557.60

The above is what i understand. Stacy.. are we on the same page?
I think MM should Bundle JRUN+CFMX and maybe get the Price
Competitive...

Joe Eugene

-------Original Message-------
From: Christian Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 02/03/03 03:24 PM
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE

> 
> For CFMX for J2EE Application Servers licensing issues, take a look at

the FAQ below:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/j2ee/productinfo/faq/

Specifically, for those interested in transferring licenses, see:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/j2ee/productinfo/faq/#700

Finally, the ColdFusion MX for J2EE License Transfer Page:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/j2ee/special/ 
license_transfer/

Information on how to contact your local reseller is available at the  
URL above.

Christian

On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 11:51 AM, Chris White wrote:

> Interesting - I have been running a few ColdFusion Ent. servers since

> 4.5 and we had purchased a 2 year support agreement.  The support runs

> out this year.
>
> I would like to move to a J2EE version but based on what you were told

> makes a person wonder what to do.  I have paid enough for the Ent.  
> versions.
>
> I don't see any value in the Ent. version any more.  It does not share

> sessions across multiple servers like the versions before  
> ColdFusionMX.  I would like to move to Java Sessions but I need a Java

> Application server like JRUN or Websphere to manage the sessions.   
> Wish that if I go to J2EE and started with JRUN that if down the road

> I moved to Websphere I could do that without another cost.  What is a

> person to do?
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:01 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE
>
> There are so many questions about license issues and what is  
> Macromedia going to do to entise me to move to a J2EE version.
>
> When CFMX came out we immediately upgraded on internal servers...we  
> would have like to purchase the J2EE version (for WebLogic) but it  
> wasn't out yet...so we purchased the Enterprise standalone version for

> use until J2EE was out....
>
> I was just told it will cost $2800+ to transfer each license to the  
> J2EE version!!!!  There must be some mistake...can someone form MM  
> please comment? Can u not transfer licenses?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Stace
>
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