Umm, not to belabor the obvious, but it's important to note from the link
you listed:

"How can I use the software provided in the subscription?
The software included with the subscription can be used for internal use,
testing, evaluation, demonstration, training, and educational purposes only.
"

So it's a cheap, limited MSDN without the .NET developer tools.

Regards,

John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message -----
From: "samcfug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: RE: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE


> Nope - $399. for the one year subscription
>
> For doubting Thomas's go to this link (watch out for wrapping)
>
>
http://members.microsoft.com/partner/salesmarketing/partnermarket/actionpack
/act
> ionpackus.aspx
>
> =====================================
> Douglas White
> group Manager
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.samcfug.org
> =====================================
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Langevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:52 PM
> Subject: RE: RE: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE
>
>
> | Ummm...you mean $399/license?
> |
> |
> |
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:48 PM
> | To: CF-Talk
> | Subject: Re: RE: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE
> |
> |
> | That is full retail - Microsoft has a wide variety of licensing options
as
> | well
> | as some pretty steep discounts for the enterprise.
> | I was able to purchase  a 10 user license which included SQL2000,
> | exchange2000,
> | Office XP Pro, WinXP pro  and a bunch of other stuff for $399.00
> | Also included is automatic upgrade to the new server products as they
come
> | out
> | for a year. no extra charge.
> |
> |
> | =====================================
> | Douglas White
> | group Manager
> | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | http://www.samcfug.org
> | =====================================
> | ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "Joe Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:18 PM
> | Subject: Re: RE: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE
> |
> |
> | | >Makes me wonder if MM is trying to compete at all.
> | | I am wondering the same .. dont think there is a competition.
> | |
> | | Win2k Advanced Server = US$3999
> | | http://www.microsoft.com/catalog/display.asp?site=10188&subid=22&pg=8
> | |
> | | Now Windows 2003 or Window.Net Licensing is supposedly based on CPU's
and
> | supposed to be alot more expensive.
> | |
> | | Joe
> | |
> | | -------Original Message-------
> | | From: Adrocknaphobia Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | | Sent: 02/03/03 05:01 PM
> | | To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | | Subject: RE: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE
> | |
> | | >
> | | > Those prices are pretty hefty in comparison to .NET. With .NET you
need
> | | only one server too. I believe win2k is around $1100 and advanced at
3k.
> | | Makes me wonder if MM is trying to compete at all.
> | |
> | | Adam Wayne Lehman
> | | Web Systems Developer
> | | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
> | | Distance Education Division
> | |
> | |
> | | -----Original Message-----
> | | From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | | Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:33 PM
> | | To: CF-Talk
> | | Subject: Re: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE
> | |
> | | Cantrell,
> | | This is what i found on Macromedia.com
> | |
> | | Prices on MM with NO Subsciption
> | | ColdFusion MX for JRun(1 CPU)  = US $3,399
> | | ColdFusion MX for JRun(2 CPU)  = US $6.798
> | | JRun 4(1 CPU License)  =  US $899
> | | JRun 4(2 Cpu License)  =  US $1799
> | |
> | | Basically 2 CPU box cost = US $8597
> | |
> | | Is this right information? if you have CF4.5 Ent and above, take 30%
off
> | | discount through Macromedia Volume License Program(MVLP).
> | |
> | | 6.798-2039.40(30%)=4758.60+1799(Jrun)
> | | ColdFusion MX for JRun(2 CPU)  = US $6557.60
> | |
> | | The above is what i understand. Stacy.. are we on the same page?
> | | I think MM should Bundle JRUN+CFMX and maybe get the Price
> | | Competitive...
> | |
> | | Joe Eugene
> | |
> | | -------Original Message-------
> | | From: Christian Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | | Sent: 02/03/03 03:24 PM
> | | To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | | Subject: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE
> | |
> | | >
> | | > For CFMX for J2EE Application Servers licensing issues, take a look
at
> | |
> | | the FAQ below:
> | |
> | | http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/j2ee/productinfo/faq/
> | |
> | | Specifically, for those interested in transferring licenses, see:
> | |
> | |
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/j2ee/productinfo/faq/#700
> | |
> | | Finally, the ColdFusion MX for J2EE License Transfer Page:
> | |
> | | http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/j2ee/special/
> | | license_transfer/
> | |
> | | Information on how to contact your local reseller is available at the
> | | URL above.
> | |
> | | Christian
> | |
> | | On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 11:51 AM, Chris White wrote:
> | |
> | | > Interesting - I have been running a few ColdFusion Ent. servers
since
> | |
> | | > 4.5 and we had purchased a 2 year support agreement.  The support
runs
> | |
> | | > out this year.
> | | >
> | | > I would like to move to a J2EE version but based on what you were
told
> | |
> | | > makes a person wonder what to do.  I have paid enough for the Ent.
> | | > versions.
> | | >
> | | > I don't see any value in the Ent. version any more.  It does not
share
> | |
> | | > sessions across multiple servers like the versions before
> | | > ColdFusionMX.  I would like to move to Java Sessions but I need a
Java
> | |
> | | > Application server like JRUN or Websphere to manage the sessions.
> | | > Wish that if I go to J2EE and started with JRUN that if down the
road
> | |
> | | > I moved to Websphere I could do that without another cost.  What is
a
> | |
> | | > person to do?
> | | >
> | | > Chris
> | | >
> | | > -----Original Message-----
> | | > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | | > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:01 AM
> | | > To: CF-Talk
> | | > Subject: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE
> | | >
> | | > There are so many questions about license issues and what is
> | | > Macromedia going to do to entise me to move to a J2EE version.
> | | >
> | | > When CFMX came out we immediately upgraded on internal servers...we
> | | > would have like to purchase the J2EE version (for WebLogic) but it
> | | > wasn't out yet...so we purchased the Enterprise standalone version
for
> | |
> | | > use until J2EE was out....
> | | >
> | | > I was just told it will cost $2800+ to transfer each license to the
> | | > J2EE version!!!!  There must be some mistake...can someone form MM
> | | > please comment? Can u not transfer licenses?
> | | >
> | | > Many thanks,
> | | >
> | | > Stace
> | | >
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