Umm, not to belabor the obvious, but it's important to note from the link you listed:
"How can I use the software provided in the subscription? The software included with the subscription can be used for internal use, testing, evaluation, demonstration, training, and educational purposes only. " So it's a cheap, limited MSDN without the .NET developer tools. Regards, John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "samcfug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:30 PM Subject: Re: RE: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE > Nope - $399. for the one year subscription > > For doubting Thomas's go to this link (watch out for wrapping) > > http://members.microsoft.com/partner/salesmarketing/partnermarket/actionpack /act > ionpackus.aspx > > ===================================== > Douglas White > group Manager > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.samcfug.org > ===================================== > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Langevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:52 PM > Subject: RE: RE: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE > > > | Ummm...you mean $399/license? > | > | > | > | -----Original Message----- > | From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > | Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:48 PM > | To: CF-Talk > | Subject: Re: RE: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE > | > | > | That is full retail - Microsoft has a wide variety of licensing options as > | well > | as some pretty steep discounts for the enterprise. > | I was able to purchase a 10 user license which included SQL2000, > | exchange2000, > | Office XP Pro, WinXP pro and a bunch of other stuff for $399.00 > | Also included is automatic upgrade to the new server products as they come > | out > | for a year. no extra charge. > | > | > | ===================================== > | Douglas White > | group Manager > | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | http://www.samcfug.org > | ===================================== > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Joe Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:18 PM > | Subject: Re: RE: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE > | > | > | | >Makes me wonder if MM is trying to compete at all. > | | I am wondering the same .. dont think there is a competition. > | | > | | Win2k Advanced Server = US$3999 > | | http://www.microsoft.com/catalog/display.asp?site=10188&subid=22&pg=8 > | | > | | Now Windows 2003 or Window.Net Licensing is supposedly based on CPU's and > | supposed to be alot more expensive. > | | > | | Joe > | | > | | -------Original Message------- > | | From: Adrocknaphobia Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | | Sent: 02/03/03 05:01 PM > | | To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | | Subject: RE: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE > | | > | | > > | | > Those prices are pretty hefty in comparison to .NET. With .NET you need > | | only one server too. I believe win2k is around $1100 and advanced at 3k. > | | Makes me wonder if MM is trying to compete at all. > | | > | | Adam Wayne Lehman > | | Web Systems Developer > | | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health > | | Distance Education Division > | | > | | > | | -----Original Message----- > | | From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > | | Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:33 PM > | | To: CF-Talk > | | Subject: Re: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE > | | > | | Cantrell, > | | This is what i found on Macromedia.com > | | > | | Prices on MM with NO Subsciption > | | ColdFusion MX for JRun(1 CPU) = US $3,399 > | | ColdFusion MX for JRun(2 CPU) = US $6.798 > | | JRun 4(1 CPU License) = US $899 > | | JRun 4(2 Cpu License) = US $1799 > | | > | | Basically 2 CPU box cost = US $8597 > | | > | | Is this right information? if you have CF4.5 Ent and above, take 30% off > | | discount through Macromedia Volume License Program(MVLP). > | | > | | 6.798-2039.40(30%)=4758.60+1799(Jrun) > | | ColdFusion MX for JRun(2 CPU) = US $6557.60 > | | > | | The above is what i understand. Stacy.. are we on the same page? > | | I think MM should Bundle JRUN+CFMX and maybe get the Price > | | Competitive... > | | > | | Joe Eugene > | | > | | -------Original Message------- > | | From: Christian Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | | Sent: 02/03/03 03:24 PM > | | To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | | Subject: Re: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE > | | > | | > > | | > For CFMX for J2EE Application Servers licensing issues, take a look at > | | > | | the FAQ below: > | | > | | http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/j2ee/productinfo/faq/ > | | > | | Specifically, for those interested in transferring licenses, see: > | | > | | http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/j2ee/productinfo/faq/#700 > | | > | | Finally, the ColdFusion MX for J2EE License Transfer Page: > | | > | | http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/j2ee/special/ > | | license_transfer/ > | | > | | Information on how to contact your local reseller is available at the > | | URL above. > | | > | | Christian > | | > | | On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 11:51 AM, Chris White wrote: > | | > | | > Interesting - I have been running a few ColdFusion Ent. servers since > | | > | | > 4.5 and we had purchased a 2 year support agreement. The support runs > | | > | | > out this year. > | | > > | | > I would like to move to a J2EE version but based on what you were told > | | > | | > makes a person wonder what to do. I have paid enough for the Ent. > | | > versions. > | | > > | | > I don't see any value in the Ent. version any more. It does not share > | | > | | > sessions across multiple servers like the versions before > | | > ColdFusionMX. I would like to move to Java Sessions but I need a Java > | | > | | > Application server like JRUN or Websphere to manage the sessions. > | | > Wish that if I go to J2EE and started with JRUN that if down the road > | | > | | > I moved to Websphere I could do that without another cost. What is a > | | > | | > person to do? > | | > > | | > Chris > | | > > | | > -----Original Message----- > | | > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > | | > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:01 AM > | | > To: CF-Talk > | | > Subject: MM Pricing Problem on CFMX for J2EE > | | > > | | > There are so many questions about license issues and what is > | | > Macromedia going to do to entise me to move to a J2EE version. > | | > > | | > When CFMX came out we immediately upgraded on internal servers...we > | | > would have like to purchase the J2EE version (for WebLogic) but it > | | > wasn't out yet...so we purchased the Enterprise standalone version for > | | > | | > use until J2EE was out.... > | | > > | | > I was just told it will cost $2800+ to transfer each license to the > | | > J2EE version!!!! There must be some mistake...can someone form MM > | | > please comment? 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