Agreed...most of our sites have no more than 1% hits from Opera users, according to our web stats.
w -----Original Message----- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 March 2003 17:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! I dont think its dumb. It makes perfect sense. Just because 10% of the browser market could be Opera, it doesn't mean to say that all 10% may hit MM or any site for that matter. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 March 2003 17:21 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! That's about the dumbest thing I've heard in the conversations today. If 10% of the market uses Opera, it's an established browser...Why shouldn't a site test for it? Especially a company such as Macromedia. They screwed up big time. They designed a site that looks good, tries to do some fancy stuff, but falls short on the big picture, and now needs to work on damage control. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! You know that MM is not the only site that does not work well with Opera. Wells Fargo Bank's On-Line banking does not work well either. There are a few others that do not work with Opera, so MM is not the only one out there that is not checking for that browser. Why not apply yourself to the QA department if Opera compatibility is such an issue? Personally I do not have any problems loading the new site in IE. I am viewing it on a Dell Inspiron, 1.5 GHZ Pentium 4 processor with a half a gig of RAM, and it is running just fine. Maybe Opera needs to get on board and make their browser work with other companies sites? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:43 AM Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! > That is the biggest load of BS i've heard all day. Its a website! > Test the crap before you upload it, if you dont have a QA deptment get one. > If you do have one fire the people because they obviously don't know what > they are doing. > You can't release a site that doesn't even let you see the front page with a > browser like Opera. > > I run it on IE and its slow as anything. Its like macromedia never stops to > think before it releases things lol. > > Hopefully they fix the opera thing quickly. I mean its only a browser with > 10%, and growing, of the market. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christian Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:12 AM > Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! > > > The new macromedia.com is certainly a "next generation" site, and > unfortunately, there are going to be issues like the ones you mention > below. I hope people can take the time to let us know when they find > things like this by going to the following URL: > > http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/mm_feedback.html > > I remember when I first used OS X (also a complete re-write and "next > generation" project) it was VERY rough at first, and had issue ranging > from performance to compatibility. Over time, however, it has really > been refined into an excellent and extremely advanced OS. To some > extent, these types of issues are the price you pay when you take big > steps forward. Someone has to be pushing the envelope, though, and I'm > glad it's Macromedia. > > Christian > > On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Jillian Carroll wrote: > > > I'm surprised MM would launch this site given: > > > > - Jakob Neilson (and other usability professionals) are going to > > be watching > > - They are trying to 'sell sell sell' the idea that Flash has > > matured and is now faster, friendlier, etc. > > > > For my own interest, I checked out the site in several browsers: > > > > - NS 6.2.3 and 7.1 (seems to work nearly as I imagine is intended) > > - NS 4.79 (very little of the site can be seen) > > - NS 4.78 (much like 4.79, very little can be seen, and the links > > that are visible, aren't functional) > > > > - Mozilla 1.1 (depricates nicely w/o Flash in this browser) > > > > - IE 6 (the links in the main 'top' bar don't work properly) > > > > It's unfortunate. > > > > -- > > Jillian > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: March 5, 2003 9:21 AM > >> To: CF-Talk > >> Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! > >> > >> > >> I can't say I am too happy with the new site (it was nice to > >> look at first off and in all honesty: It seems a gimmick), > >> but I cant see how you could have failed to find the > >> exchanges : www.macromedia.com/exchange > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: paris lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: 05 March 2003 15:11 > >> To: CF-Talk > >> Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! > >> > >> > >> Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash > >> everywhere... it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards... > >> > >> They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite > >> a pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the > >> site map.... > >> > >> That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't > >> make me feel the site is any more responsive... > >> > >> Hopefully they revise this... > >> > >> Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of > >> files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen > >> block to select show newest... a change from how it > >> historically has worked... > >> > >> But hey it's pretty. (Isn't that all that matters) :) > >> > >> -p > >> > >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > >> From: "Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)" > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:06:59 -0000 > >> > >>> I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button > >> problem > >>> which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much > >>> cleaner. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59 > >>> To: CF-Talk > >>> Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! > >>> > >>> > >>> Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's > >> supposed to > >>> :) > >>> > >>> Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it > >> over a modem > >>> though! > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45 > >>> To: CF-Talk > >>> Subject: New Macromedia.com launched! > >>> > >>> Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :) > >>> > >>> The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks > >> excellent (if a > >>> little slow in places). > >>> > >>> Well done MM. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
