> You must be a "newbie" and not a coder of 8 or more years then.
>
> _____
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2004 2:25 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: SOT: 20 meg updater for DWMX 2004
>
>
> ok MM heres an idea
> put cfstudio back up for sale at $599
> since i guess ppl would rather pay that than the current price to update
> hs for $29 or they would rather pay $599 than the current price of $399
> for dwmx 2004 & hs 5.5+
> heck, u'll just make more money.
> even though with what they would save they could also get a devnet
> subscription and get all that good stuff too
> beats the hell outta me
>
> dave aka ~jan~ i guess
>
>
>
>
>
>> Not happy Jan!
>>
>> Consider these points:
>>
>> 1. Dreamweaver MX 2004 is not entirely a cheap product.
>>
>> 2. You cannot obtain HomeSite+ without purchasing Studio MX or
>> Dreamweaver MX.
>>
>> 3. The "winard" you mention is only available on as a third-party
>> extension on a "purchase to obtain" DRK.
>>
>> 4. The extension in question broke my install of DWMX.
>>
>> 5. MM have restored the little used "Timeline" feature so why not a
>> decent SQL Builder tool like that provided in CFStudio/HS?
>>
>> When providing training for Centrelink (26,000 staff) I was embarassed
>> to learn how lame DWMX's SQL tools were compared to HS (5.5) or even
>> CF Studio 5.
>>
>> If MM truly want us to move to DWMX, they are on a good start with the
>> updater, but a really cool integrated SQL Builder would put the icing
>> on the cake.
>>
>> In fact the training situation was interesting. Launch DWMX and use
>> the "Login Form" template, copy the HTML code, back to HS and use that
>> within the HS environment.
>>
>> I was asked by a canny trainee why. I was tempted to say just shut up
>> and do it. Obviously HS doesn't have the "templates" but for
>> everything else it does much more. The context sensitive help us far
>> more useful (press the F1 key (Windows) in a tag for detailed
>> information) and the online help is far more useful for cutting and
>> pasting. WTH MM did with this in DWMX 2004 is beyond me. And I was
>> trying to cram 8 years of CF coding into 2 days of training.
>>
>> So after a brief rundown and introduction to DWMX it was interesting
>> to say - bugger it - open up HS instead - I know it works!
>>
>> So MM. Build the tool ColdFusion Studio/HomeSite users (coders) can
>> enjoy. Make the "developer view" actually be like that instead of a
>> clever re-arrangement of the screen. Add a help system similar to
>> CFS/HS for CFML (and other languages if demanded, ASP, PHP, etc).
>>
>> --
>> Peter Tilbrook
>> ColdFusion Applications Developer
>> ColdGen Internet Solutions
>> Manager, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group -
>> http://www.actcfug.com <http://www.actcfug.com/>
>> 4/73 Tharwa Road
>> Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
>> AUSTRALIA
>>
>> Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727
>> Mobile: +61-0439-401-823
>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2004 10:56 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: 20 meg updater for DWMX 2004
>>
>>
>> the hand coder tools
>> and
>> advanced query wizard are on devnet 4
>>
>> advanced query wizard is here to
>> http://www.advancedextensions.com
>>
>> and o'reilly's sql reference is on devnet 2
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hey what's the name of the extension that you're referring too? I
>>> would like to check it out but I can't seem to find it.
>>>
>>> Neal Bailey
>>> Internet Marketing Manager
>>> E-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 5:16 PM
>>> To: CF-Talk
>>> Subject: RE: 20 meg updater for DWMX 2004
>>>
>>> there is an extention 4 it also things like hard-coder tools
>>> and im dl'ing a new extention right now for cf tools
>>> _____
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