Good answers!

Looking forward to the public beta!

Dick

On Aug 18, 2004, at 9:50 AM, Vince Bonfanti wrote:

> Hi Dick,
>
>  Regarding your first two questions, details of the CFMESSAGE tag will
> be
>  announced when we release the BD 6.2 public beta (this is a fancy way
> of
>  saying, "I don't know yet").
>
>  Regarding "...tradeoffs of a cfmessage tag vs an event gateway...",
> three
>  answers:
>
>    1. We started work on the CFMESSAGE tag before ever hearing of the
> event
>  gateway, so it's not as if we made a decision to do one instead of the
>  other.
>
>    2. We really don't know all that much about the event gateway, since
>  Macromedia have released little if any technical details publicly; so
> it's a
>  bit difficult for me to comment on just yet.
>
>    3. Implementing a CFMESSAGE tag doesn't preclude implementing an
> event
>  gateway (and vice-versa). If after seeing details of the event
> gateway we
>  think it's something useful that people will want, then we'll
> implement it
>  in BD; if not, then we won't. That's mainly going to depend on
> whether you
>  (CFML developers in general, and BlueDragon customers in particular)
> tell us
>  the event gateway is something you need or want. While the general
>  descriptions we've heard of the event gateway sound pretty cool, it's
> not
>  clear to me that it's something most CFML developers will be able to
> make
>  use of effectively (certainly, my personal opinion is there are other
> more
>  compelling features in Blackstone). Our attitude right now is
> neutral--we'll
>  wait and see after it's delivered and respond appropriately.
>
>  Vince
>
>  ________________________________
>
>  From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:34 PM
>  To: CF-Talk
>  Subject: Re: Event Gateway on BlueDragon, etc. ( was:BLACKSTONE:
>  Software Development Times Article)
>
>
>  On Aug 18, 2004, at 8:05 AM, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
>
>  >  Second, based on the information that's available publicly so
>  far,
>  > there's
>  >  nothing to technically prevent us from implementing an event
>  gateway
>  > in
>  >  BlueDragon, if we choose to do so. Indeed, we've already got a
>  working
>  >  prototype of a CFMESSAGE tag that gives you access to JMS (on
>  Java)
>  > and
>  >  Message Queuing (on .NET) that will likely be delivered in
>  BlueDragon
>  > 6.2
>  >  later this year, well before the Blackstone release. (The
>  CFMESSAGE
>  > tag is
>  >  something we were working on before we ever heard of the
>  Blackstone
>  > event
>  >  gateway).
>  >
>
>  Vince
>
>  I am interested in the fact that you are providing access to JMS
>  with a
>  CF tag as opposed to an event gateway.
>
>  When I first investigated the subject, based on Sean Corfields posts
>  &
>  blog it occurred to me that a slick way to provide this access would
>  be
>  a "cfmessage" tag -- even used that name.  Sean almost (but not
>  totally) convinced me that a gateway was a better approach.
>
>  Intuitively, I think that a cfmessage tage would be easier for a
>  developer to use/understand -- but if a JMS event gateway is
>  procvided
>  with Blackstone, that is probably a wash.
>
>  I am interested in hearing:
>
>  1) will the cfmessage tag implement all features of JMS senders  
>  receivers (syncrhonous and asynchronous).
>  2) will cfmessage allow manipulation of messages without consuming
>  them
>  -- say, as an an admin function to change priorities, etc, or just
>  examine messages in the system (a great debugging aid, too)
>  3) your thoughts on the tradeoffs of a cfmessage tag vs an event
>  gateway
>
>  TIA
>
>  Dick
>
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