Yes, I see CF as being targeted at the "end user" rather than contract-based developers. CF gets installed into a lot of Gov and Edu sites and they often form their own teams to develop and maintain the apps (like in our case, where many of the full-time CF developers are in permanent positions and the more casual users are still able to do some of the work). The industry sees CF as a niche product (ref: Gartner Research) and I think this is probably that niche.
-----Original Message----- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2004 9:27 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF developer numbers Yes, "Times, they are a'changing". When I first discovered CF (circa 1998) I could earn $10,000 for a typical 1-month project (the same project for the same $ took 3 months in Perl)/ There was lots of business around and I was able to get all the jobs I wanted. But, one of the problems with a system like CF is that it makes developing web sites so much easier and so, appeals to many developers of all levels of expertise. Of course this increases competition. I don't have a solution, but I think the life of a contract CF programmer has moved on ... ...to survive, we must adapt! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Sams Teach Yourself Regular Expressions in 10 Minutes by Ben Forta http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=40 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:181958 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54