interestingly enough, CF is spreading inside my company.  other app
dev teams are being modeled after the one I am on due to our great
success.  Of course we are a phone company, always a little behind the
world, LOL!

Doug


On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:46:41 -0400, April Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Funny I have been waiting for this conversation for a while now.  I've been
> developing ColdFusion apps since 1998 as well, and every year it seems
> harder to justify the costs, there are a lot alternative technologies now.
> For me personally it has been a motivation to move some of my eggs into
> another basket.  I just can't be a die hard, I know too many die-hard COBOL
> programmers, trying real hard to find those jobs.
> 
> I'm certainly not an expert on any of this, just something I've been
> thinking about myself for a while, very happy to see it being discussed by
> others.
> 
> April
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 1:04 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF developer numbers
> 
> Beta was a superior format to VHS
> 
> Amiga was a superior multimedia PC compared to PC-Clones or even Macs
> 
> Apple's OS is more user friendly than Windows.
> 
> Being better functionality wise doesn't guarantee market penetration or even
> survival.
> 
> Just something to think about...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  Rey Bango
> Date:  10/20/04 9:37 am
> To:  CF-Talk
> Subj:  Re: CF developer numbers
> 
> The biggest gripe that I hear about ColdFusion from *sssooo* many people is
> product cost. At $1,299 for standard and $5,999 for the enterprise, its a
> steep barrier to entry compared to PHP and ASP/ASP.Net (as free
> alternatives). And yes, I've read all of the posts and counterpoints to the
> *free* software vs.ColdFusion debate (including Ben Forta's analysis) so
> it's not even worth mentioning. Perception is what's hurting ColdFusion, not
> functionality.
> 
> I went through this same process when I developed in PowerBuilder. It came
> out and revolutionized the way Windows-based client/server apps were  built.
> It had a strong run of about 5 years until MS brought Visual Basic up to par
> and offerred VB at cut rate prices, essentially cutting off PowerBuilder at
> the knees. I'm seeing many similarities with this and the ColdFusion product
> line.
> 
> I think BlueDragon is a good alternative and luckily, their standard version
> is free but I'm wondering if it may be too little, too late.
> 
> Rey.....
> 
> 

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