John didn't say most designers aren't coders. I wouldn't have had a problem with that. But John said, "Most don't even understand the concept of a web server." As a designer, I called bullshit. Designers made the web mainstream.
ColdFusion appeals to many designers because of its tag-based roots. When doing web sites, the lines between designer and coder can quickly become blurred and I'm glad that a language like ColdFusion exists to make those distinctions even blurrier. Design isn't just about making pretty pictures. Design is much more often about communication. Clearly presenting information. And CF is an approachable tool for facilitating communication. Along these lines, I see great potential for purchase of Macromedia by Adobe. For the last several years, Adobe has been moving into the areas of presentation of XML content, content management, document management, collaborative editing, etc. leveraging J2EE. They have enterprise server-side tools as well as the traditional desktop design tools that everyone is familiar with. Coder vs. Designer? It's all about communication. And "designers" are tech savvier than people here probably think. --- Kevin Graeme Cooperative Extension Technology Services University of Wisconsin-Extension > -----Original Message----- > From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:32 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?! > > John is right. Graphic designers by _definition_ are not programmers. > Thats why they have a different title. And the _vast_ > majority of people who use dreamweaver are graphic designers > who can't even write HTML. Thats why there is a WYSIWYG and > why it's so popular. > > Again, thats not to say someone cant be skilled in both > areas, but considering the vast amount of knowledge it > requires to be a master of either, there are many highly > skilled graphic designers (that I have worked with) who can > only create HTML with a WYSIWYG. Because coding isn't > important to a focused graphic designer. Plus not all graphic > designers design for the web. Most paid design work is still > in print and other media. > > John is right in making an 'assumption' (not slander, not a > slur) that the majority of graphic designers are not coders. > > -Adam ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203561 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
