And I have just stated that I don't wish to receive them from your company.
I will ask you again to please remove my name from your list. Since it's
obviously on it. Be forwarned if I receive any messages, of a marketing
nature, from you in the future I'll make sure that my ISP gets his money.
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
--K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:57 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Developer Directory?
>
>
> Customization As in Dear Katrina,
> Dice.com is a partner of ours and they have stated that you
> wish to receive
> these types of mailings.............
>
> Talk about a <cf_loophole>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chapman, Katrina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 3:00 PM
> Subject: RE: Developer Directory?
>
>
> > Actually you're both wrong.
> >
> > The bill reads
> >
> > "Under the bill, California electronic mail service
> providers may publish
> a
> > notice forbidding the use of their equipment to send or
> deliver spam. They
> > may sue anyone who violates this for $50 per message up to
> $25,000 per day
> > in which the spamming takes place, or actual damages.
> Attorneys' fees are
> > also recoverable."
> >
> > That means that you're ISP get's the money not the end user.
> >
> > Also, according to m-w.com spam is "unsolicited usually
> commercial E-mail
> > sent to a large number of addresses". That means any
> message that you
> send
> > me that i didn't explicitly ask for is spam as long as you
> send it to
> > several differen't people at once. And, yes, doing loop so
> that only one
> > address goes out at a time is still spam.
> >
> > If I'm on the list remove me please.
> >
> > --K
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:44 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: Developer Directory?
> > >
> > >
> > > Only if you opted never to receive a mailing from our Company
> > > is that law
> > > applicable. ... We get our names from Internet related
> > > companies that have
> > > strict privacy policies that only give us names of those who
> > > are internet
> > > development related and want other information... FYI all
> > > outbound emails
> > > have a opt out completely link and we send that through XML
> > > to the partner
> > > who gave it to us... That way 2 birds with one stone... The
> > > business we have
> > > built is the prism of incorporation to individuals who want
> > > to focus on
> > > their own technologies. Not learning and keeping up with
> every type of
> > > technology. This conclusively makes each persons experience
> > > rise in worth.
> > > The purpose of the Original posting was to open valid conversation
> > > concerning opt in procedures... Is preferences enough? I
> think that no
> > > matter what solution the FTC and the Senate decides, it
> will be one of
> > > solidarity... But to be clear if it happened continually to a
> > > recipient
> > > who's ISP resides in CA; the fee is only $50.
> > >
> > > http://seclab.cs.ucdavis.edu/~zerkle/ab1629/
> > >
> > > -brian
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ed Toon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:33 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Developer Directory?
> > >
> > >
> > > > So you're building a business off of this list? Great.
> Go ahead and
> > > include
> > > > me, but be aware that according to California law I can and
> > > will charge
> > > you
> > > > $500 per email. :P
> > > >
> > > > Ed
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Brian bouldernet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:00 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: Re: Developer Directory?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All great things are realized great until the "flack" is at
> > > it's worst....
> > > > Most Recently.
> > > > Napster, NetAppliance, WAP, Cicso, NDS..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We'll see guys... I promise no spam... Our group came
> from a email
> > > marketing
> > > > company we sold out to double click. optinemail.com...
> > > >
> > > > We inatied the AOL hell thread because of the way AOL reparses
> > > doublequoted
> > > > links in all email so they have exclusive linking in emails.
> > > >
> > > > Our goal. To be directory for other developers doing there
> > > own thing to
> > > > focus on their expertise.. Cold Fusion, Spectra whatever.
> > > The lets say a
> > > > flash developer need function.... There you go....
> > > >
> > > > Later,
> > > > Talk to you later...
> > > > -brian
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:02 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Developer Directory?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I think there's one active already. I've got one in beta
> > > at FA but it
> > > > isn't
> > > > > up yet.
> > > > > Personally, I feel that the approach your taking is not
> > > the best as many
> > > > > feel like they're being dragged into something they
> > > didn't want to be
> > > part
> > > > > of. Posting a request to a public place and saying for
> > > people to come
> > > > visit
> > > > > is one thing, but scanning their email addresses and then
> > > emailing them
> > > > > directly to do so doesn't feel right. Someone else did
> > > something very
> > > > > similar and got a LOT of flack for it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > We've created a directory of about 1200 developers from
> > > talk graoups,
> > > > > > confrences, and what not, does anyone see any major
> > > issues emailing
> > > > > everyone
> > > > > > to ask to modify a profile we have setup and make live
> > > on a site that
> > > > > rates
> > > > > > each one based on customer satisifaction and developer
> > > strengths like
> > > > > > Spectra, CF, Database skills. All on a opt in procedure
> > > currently.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are there any existing directories?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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