This is totally off topic in this list, but I'll make this comment and that's an end to it.
Your expression "asked for rape" defies the logic of your argument. Asked for rape would mean she asked for sex and would therefore be a consenting adult, ie, not a rape victim. Overall a really bad and totally insensitive analogy, the likes of which I hope we never see on this list again. Enough ............ -----Original Message----- From: Mark Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 August 2008 16:24 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SQL injection attack on House of Fusion Rick, While your argument is well put, perhaps we could choose a slightly less inflammatory analogy than rape. We have a large group here and I wouldn't want anyone to be incensed by trivializing such a traumatic event (although obviously that is not the intent). -Mark -----Original Message----- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SQL injection attack on House of Fusion This would probably be more productively viewed as as "responsibility" issue, rather than blame. Both parties, webmaster and attacker, bear responsibility for the status of the server/data/etc. A negligent server/website admin bears a certain amount of responsibility for the situation. The attacker also bears responsibility for the consequences of the attack. A court of law might hold only the attacker ultimately responsible. However, the supervisor of a negligent server/website administrator would view it as shared responsibility between the attacker and the attacked, as in, "Why wasn't the server/website protected in the first place?" Viewing this as a rape case, if a girl was hanging out on a street corner and asking passers-by to rape her, then, yes, she bears some responsibility for putting herself in that situation. It doesn't mean the one who rapes her doesn't bear the greater responsibility for the situation, and, therefore, punishment, but a fair judge would have to ask the girl why was she asking passers-by to rape her in the first place. Girls should reasonably avoid provoking rapists, and rapists should resist their impulses. Likewise, server/website admins should reasonably protect their servers and websites, but hackers should avoid their impulses or share responsibility for the situation. Rick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:311364 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4