> Happy trails! You, too!
Rick -----Original Message----- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! > You're right that I do say it's wrong *for me*. But, I think the pricing > is *wrong* completely. Now, some may say it's worth it, and I might say > that too, if it had more features that I actually use. But, I think the pricing > is too high, period. Others disagree, presumably, since they're buying the product. So I think that it's impossible for you to make that claim - if your claim were correct, no one would buy it. At best, your claim is, if not impossible, extremely premature. > Wouldn't you say, if a toothbrush manufacturer announced a new product (not really > that much new, except a few new features) and priced the toothbrush at $50, that the > manufacturer had over-priced the toothbrush? (Yes, that's an extreme example, but I'm > just trying to determine if you agree that any product at any price can be over-priced) If I made my living with a toothbrush, I'd buy the best damn toothbrush on the market. Presumably, the cost of my fancy new toothbrush would be recouped by the improvements in my work. If that weren't the case, I wouldn't buy the toothbrush. And at that point, I'd agree that the toothbrush is overpriced, at least for myself. Others might find the toothbrush more valuable in their work, since it comes bundled with Plaque Builder 4, so they might have a different assessment of its overall value. But in any case, that's not a very helpful analogy, because people don't make a living with their toothbrushes. > If we have to have a completely informed opinion on pricing, then none of us > can comment, because we don't know how much Adobe spent on development of > the product or what their sales approach to this is. That's been pretty much the gist of every comment I've made. I'm not asserting that the price is what it should be. You're asserting that it isn't. One of these is not like the other. > How high would CFB have to be priced for you to have the perspective > (without any numbers to back up your opinion) that it was priced too high? $500, > $1000? I'd pay $500 for it, especially since it's bundled with Flash Builder. I think $1000 might be too high for me, simply because I don't do enough CF programming on a daily basis that I need the best tool available. But again, that's not the same as saying it's too expensive for everyone else, or that it's simply priced too high, period. People pay crazy money for Visual Studio, after all, although I do think that's arguably a better value proposition for .NET developers than CFB is for CF developers. And with that, I'm now taking my own advice and muting this thread in Gmail. Happy trails! Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or ons ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332497 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm