I've been going through the "Teach Yourself Java 2.0 in 21 Days" book. So
far, it's been good for getting a crash course in all the basics. It's not
hard to follow at all.
Todd Ashworth
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Everland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 11:27 AM
Subject: WAY OT: C++ now Java
| Ok then where are some good beginning java starters?
|
| Robert Everland III
| Web Developer
| Dixon Ticonderoga
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 10:59 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: [RE: WAY OT: C++]
|
|
| They are similar, but definitely not the same.
| Java implements "Object Oriented Programming" in a very clean way.
| C++ has a lot of idiosyncrasies in order to blend compatibility with C, a
| very low level language with access to the bits and pointers directly into
| memory, with Object Oriented Programming "slapped on" top. When you
program
| in C++ it is very easy to mix the new OO features with the old C features
| and get into lots of trouble.
|
| I don't recommend learning C++ as your first programming language.
| I would recommend learning Java first.
| Then you could later move to C++ and be a very "clean" C++ programmer
| because you wouldn't have all the bad habits from the "low level"
| programming getting in the way.
|
| At 10:43 AM 12/20/00 -0500, Robert Everland wrote:
| >Well I figured if I learned C++ which is harder Java would be a snap
since
| >they are pretty much the same language just a little more dumbed down.
| >
| >Robert Everland III
| >Web Developer
| >Dixon Ticonderoga
| >
| >
| >-----Original Message-----
| >From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| >Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 9:40 AM
| >To: CF-Talk
| >Subject: Re: [RE: WAY OT: C++]
| >
| >
| >learn java instead. its easier and "hotter". also if you already know how
| to
| >program then learning a new language isn't that hard.
| >also there is a huge difference between C and C++ (most unix apps are
| >written
| >in C).
| >
| >"JustinMacCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| >The best place to start is a simple console Hello World example!!
| >
| >The complicating factor in C/C++ is that there are a lot of different
| >"Toolkits" to learn for different Platforms
| >(MFC-Windows,Gtk-Gnome,ncurses;ptreads-Unix,QT-Kde etc...) mostly for GUI
| >development, so it depends on what you want to do..
| >
| >
| >I think the best book on C++ is the OReilly Book C++
| >http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/cplus/ it assumes no programming
experience,
| >and you don't need to get a "C" book first...
| >
| >You can get free C compilers for windows here
| >http://www.thefreecountry.com/developercity/cc.html
| >
| >*nix has a cc & gcc etc. as standard.
| >
| >Also check out
| >http://cplus.about.com
| >
| >and of course min's site for CFX examples :-) (www.intrafoundation.com)
| >
| >
| >It's a bit of a jump from CF , but after learning C++ you should be able
to
| >master any language , Java CF Perl php, and JavaScript will all "make
more
| >sense"
| >
| >
| >Justin MacCarthy
| >
| >
| >>-----Original Message-----
| >>From: lsellers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| >>Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 6:52 AM
| >>To: CF-Talk
| >>Subject: RE: WAY OT: C++
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>> Well I have been messing with cf for a year now and figure
| >>> it's time to
| >>> seriously broaden my horizon and try to learn the granddaddy of all
| >>> languages (excluding B and all those ones which aren't highly used).
| Does
| >>> anyone know of a good website that has some good learning
| >>examples. Thanks
| >>> for any help.
| >>
| >>I assume this is for supporting web apps and I assume you've only used
CF
| >>before? Any formal programming classes or other compiled languages? It's
| >>going to be a bit rough if so.
| >>
| >>I'd suggest skipping COM objects or full fledge amazon-like cgi/isapi
| apps.
| >>:)
| >>
| >>CFX tags are a fairly easy place to start... after you play around with
| >>making a few command-line apps.
| >>
| >>As far as book and on-line tutorials. Depends what kind of previous
| >>experience you have. Thinking in C++ was one I read a while back. Fairly
| >>good.
| >>
| >>--min
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >
|
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