Hi Robert,
Here is how I learned Java (without knowing C++ )
1-Sun has a *great* tutorial side :
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/
it is **GOOD**
2-If you like IDE's (I personally do, because of the time-saving
aspects), pick IBM's VisualAge entry edition for free.
3-Java was advertised as 'easy-to-learn'. Well, how easy? Depends on
what level...
laszlo
(SUN certified java programmer or whatever the title was I got ...)
Robert Everland wrote:
>
> Ok then where are some good beginning java starters?
>
> Robert Everland III
> Web Developer
> Dixon Ticonderoga
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 10:59 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [RE: WAY OT: C++]
>
> They are similar, but definitely not the same.
> Java implements "Object Oriented Programming" in a very clean way.
> C++ has a lot of idiosyncrasies in order to blend compatibility with C, a
> very low level language with access to the bits and pointers directly into
> memory, with Object Oriented Programming "slapped on" top. When you program
> in C++ it is very easy to mix the new OO features with the old C features
> and get into lots of trouble.
>
> I don't recommend learning C++ as your first programming language.
> I would recommend learning Java first.
> Then you could later move to C++ and be a very "clean" C++ programmer
> because you wouldn't have all the bad habits from the "low level"
> programming getting in the way.
>
> At 10:43 AM 12/20/00 -0500, Robert Everland wrote:
> >Well I figured if I learned C++ which is harder Java would be a snap since
> >they are pretty much the same language just a little more dumbed down.
> >
> >Robert Everland III
> >Web Developer
> >Dixon Ticonderoga
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 9:40 AM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: Re: [RE: WAY OT: C++]
> >
> >
> >learn java instead. its easier and "hotter". also if you already know how
> to
> >program then learning a new language isn't that hard.
> >also there is a huge difference between C and C++ (most unix apps are
> >written
> >in C).
> >
> >"JustinMacCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >The best place to start is a simple console Hello World example!!
> >
> >The complicating factor in C/C++ is that there are a lot of different
> >"Toolkits" to learn for different Platforms
> >(MFC-Windows,Gtk-Gnome,ncurses;ptreads-Unix,QT-Kde etc...) mostly for GUI
> >development, so it depends on what you want to do..
> >
> >
> >I think the best book on C++ is the OReilly Book C++
> >http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/cplus/ it assumes no programming experience,
> >and you don't need to get a "C" book first...
> >
> >You can get free C compilers for windows here
> >http://www.thefreecountry.com/developercity/cc.html
> >
> >*nix has a cc & gcc etc. as standard.
> >
> >Also check out
> >http://cplus.about.com
> >
> >and of course min's site for CFX examples :-) (www.intrafoundation.com)
> >
> >
> >It's a bit of a jump from CF , but after learning C++ you should be able to
> >master any language , Java CF Perl php, and JavaScript will all "make more
> >sense"
> >
> >
> >Justin MacCarthy
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: lsellers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 6:52 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: RE: WAY OT: C++
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Well I have been messing with cf for a year now and figure
> >>> it's time to
> >>> seriously broaden my horizon and try to learn the granddaddy of all
> >>> languages (excluding B and all those ones which aren't highly used).
> Does
> >>> anyone know of a good website that has some good learning
> >>examples. Thanks
> >>> for any help.
> >>
> >>I assume this is for supporting web apps and I assume you've only used CF
> >>before? Any formal programming classes or other compiled languages? It's
> >>going to be a bit rough if so.
> >>
> >>I'd suggest skipping COM objects or full fledge amazon-like cgi/isapi
> apps.
> >>:)
> >>
> >>CFX tags are a fairly easy place to start... after you play around with
> >>making a few command-line apps.
> >>
> >>As far as book and on-line tutorials. Depends what kind of previous
> >>experience you have. Thinking in C++ was one I read a while back. Fairly
> >>good.
> >>
> >>--min
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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