I think the the OReilly books are great for reference, the wrox books
Starting Java and Java Server programming are good for beginners (no C
needed :-) ) to intermediate levels Also the java.sun.com site is really
good too.
The hardest concepts for CF moving to Java ,I think, is the stronger typing
and the OO design of Java, and possibly I idea of 'compiling' an app :-)
BTW CFStudio has syntax coloring for Java....
You should learn C++ too, it's good fun..(pointers are your friend ;-) )
Justin MacCarthy
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 4:28 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: WAY OT: C++ now Java
>
>
> Ok then where are some good beginning java starters?
>
>Robert Everland III
>Web Developer
>Dixon Ticonderoga
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 10:59 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: [RE: WAY OT: C++]
>
>
>They are similar, but definitely not the same.
>Java implements "Object Oriented Programming" in a very clean way.
>C++ has a lot of idiosyncrasies in order to blend compatibility with C, a
>very low level language with access to the bits and pointers directly into
>memory, with Object Oriented Programming "slapped on" top. When you program
>in C++ it is very easy to mix the new OO features with the old C features
>and get into lots of trouble.
>
>I don't recommend learning C++ as your first programming language.
>I would recommend learning Java first.
>Then you could later move to C++ and be a very "clean" C++ programmer
>because you wouldn't have all the bad habits from the "low level"
>programming getting in the way.
>
>At 10:43 AM 12/20/00 -0500, Robert Everland wrote:
>>Well I figured if I learned C++ which is harder Java would be a snap since
>>they are pretty much the same language just a little more dumbed down.
>>
>>Robert Everland III
>>Web Developer
>>Dixon Ticonderoga
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 9:40 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: [RE: WAY OT: C++]
>>
>>
>>learn java instead. its easier and "hotter". also if you already know how
>to
>>program then learning a new language isn't that hard.
>>also there is a huge difference between C and C++ (most unix apps are
>>written
>>in C).
>>
>>"JustinMacCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>The best place to start is a simple console Hello World example!!
>>
>>The complicating factor in C/C++ is that there are a lot of different
>>"Toolkits" to learn for different Platforms
>>(MFC-Windows,Gtk-Gnome,ncurses;ptreads-Unix,QT-Kde etc...) mostly for GUI
>>development, so it depends on what you want to do..
>>
>>
>>I think the best book on C++ is the OReilly Book C++
>>http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/cplus/ it assumes no programming
>experience,
>>and you don't need to get a "C" book first...
>>
>>You can get free C compilers for windows here
>>http://www.thefreecountry.com/developercity/cc.html
>>
>>*nix has a cc & gcc etc. as standard.
>>
>>Also check out
>>http://cplus.about.com
>>
>>and of course min's site for CFX examples :-) (www.intrafoundation.com)
>>
>>
>>It's a bit of a jump from CF , but after learning C++ you should
>be able to
>>master any language , Java CF Perl php, and JavaScript will all "make more
>>sense"
>>
>>
>>Justin MacCarthy
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: lsellers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 6:52 AM
>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>Subject: RE: WAY OT: C++
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well I have been messing with cf for a year now and figure
>>>> it's time to
>>>> seriously broaden my horizon and try to learn the granddaddy of all
>>>> languages (excluding B and all those ones which aren't highly used).
>Does
>>>> anyone know of a good website that has some good learning
>>>examples. Thanks
>>>> for any help.
>>>
>>>I assume this is for supporting web apps and I assume you've only used CF
>>>before? Any formal programming classes or other compiled languages? It's
>>>going to be a bit rough if so.
>>>
>>>I'd suggest skipping COM objects or full fledge amazon-like cgi/isapi
>apps.
>>>:)
>>>
>>>CFX tags are a fairly easy place to start... after you play around with
>>>making a few command-line apps.
>>>
>>>As far as book and on-line tutorials. Depends what kind of previous
>>>experience you have. Thinking in C++ was one I read a while back. Fairly
>>>good.
>>>
>>>--min
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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